Anyone Here Win This? Cy Young Cigar Box

[canjond]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=200723756966

Thought my $4000 snipe may have held up, but no such luck!

[khkco4bls]

great box. the ones on hunts and REA went for 6 to 6500. this one in that cond. i figured 4500.

[Leon]

I didn't see it but it's a great looking box. That is one of the 2-3 things I don't collect so I wouldn't have been a player on it anyway

[CarltonHendricks]

Originally Posted by canjond

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ws/eBayISAPI...m=200723756966

Thought my $4000 snipe may have held up, but no such luck!

Great looking no question...way more flair and color than the tin...I don't recall ever seeing it before and I speculate it's very rare...an over used term but the tin is rare...so I'd at least put a "very" in front of the box! No doubt the same cigar as the tin.

Somehow the way the way the seller wrote the description sounds like he would have been surprised he got $4,270.00 for it:
This is your typical dirty old wooden cigar box BUT boy does it have a surprise! There are Cy Young images pasted on the outside lid , and one edge and the large one inside! The out side is rough with dirty and ragged papers, as you would expect. THE Inside is Half way decent! Nice surprise. Still hinged but delicate. Box is impressed Cy Young and is the five cent variety. This is old. The bottom of box reads Factory no 436 18th district STATE of OHIO etc. etc. You might be able to clean this a bit, but only with gentle work. I am not guaranteeing that. I think this is a one of a kind!



The Cy Young tin above sold for $4,250.00 in April 2005 in Robert Edward Auctions..and the box brought $4,270 a month shy of seven years later...and like I say it's probably rare-er....It would be very interesting to see the whole collection it went into...or perhaps will end up in...if a dealer or auction won it...


Cy Young 1867-1955, retired from playing in 1911

I wonder how long they made the Cy Young cigar?...and where it was sold?...regionally or nationally....I would speculate it was marketed in the Boston area..during his time with the Boston Americans where he pitched the first perfect game in American League history in 1904....Although..I can see on the label they were made in Bethesda Ohio by the Sweet Home Company...

AFTER RETIREMENT
From 1912 until his death in 1955, Cy Young lived and worked on his farm. His wife, Robba, whom he had known since childhood, died in 1933. After she died, Young tried several jobs, and eventually moved in with friends John and Ruth Benedum and did odd jobs for them. Young took part in many baseball events after his retirement. In 1937, 26 years after he retired from baseball, Cy Young was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame. He was among the first to donate mementos to the Hall.

On November 4, 1955, Cy Young died on his farm at the age of 88. He was buried in Peoli, Ohio - From Wikipedia

http://www.sportsantiques.com/tins.htm
I think that's the second baseball cigar I've seen that came in both a tin and box...I had the Home Run Cigars box see below...until lost it in a trade for my baseball mirror...it came in both....see more on sports tins on my tins page, link above.


Lost in trade - Part of package traded for baseball mirror


Sold for $3,000.00 April 30, 2005 in REA

[canjond]

Carlton- I believe it's actually the 3rd known (so rare indeed) although I'm sure there are others out there. One of the first to come to market was in the Barry halper sale, and sold for over $10k. That same box was auctioned off a few years later by REA for around $6500. Overall that box is a little nicer, so I agree with the above that this is probably a $4k-$4.5k box.

[CarltonHendricks]

Originally Posted by canjond

Carlton- I believe it's actually the 3rd known (so rare indeed) although I'm sure there are others out there. One of the first to come to market was in the Barry halper sale, and sold for over $10k. That same box was auctioned off a few years later by REA for around $6500. Overall that box is a little nicer, so I agree with the above that this is probably a $4k-$4.5k box.

Jon, So you're saying the Halper box was the same example that sold in REA?...and the seller took a $3,500.00 plus fees bath?...ouch!

[canjond]

Originally Posted by CarltonHendricks

Jon, So you're saying the Halper box was the same example that sold in REA?...and the seller took a $3,500.00 plus fees bath?...ouch!

Exactly... here's the original write=up from the 2005 REA auction:

"This box was originally part of the Barry Halper Collection. It appeared as Lot #346 in the famous Halper auction, where it sold for $10,350 at that time, and was purchased at the auction by our consignor." ... SOLD FOR $6,380.00

[patricka]

I saw it on ebay and thought it would probably go in the $3000 to $4000 range. When researching the one on ebay, I had seen the one from the 2005 REA auction but did not think it would reach that level now. A slightly different version with a different interior label sold in their 2006 auction for only around $2300. The design on the top of that box actually matches the design on the one that was on ebay. If you compare the 2005 REA example and ebay example the design on the top of the box is actually different.

Hunt had another slightly different version in one of their aucitons back in 2000 and it brought like around $6600.

Those 3 were the only other examples I could find by doing some quick research when I was watching it on ebay. I dropped out around the $3100 mark.

[Exhibitman]

Fantastic box. I guess real stuff does sell on Ebay

I bought my 1st cigar box recently but for less than 1/10 of the Cy Young. BTW, I found that a basketball holder was a perfectly sized display case for it:

[travrosty]

nice boxing benny leonard cigar box. superb!

do you know of any other boxers that they made cigar boxes like this for?

[Exhibitman]

Jim Jeffries.

[travrosty]

jeffries, one of my absolute favorite boxers.

[Exhibitman]

Originally Posted by travrosty

jeffries, one of my absolute favorite boxers.

You might enjoy this:

http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/box...phsandephemera

[travrosty]

very nice, thanks

http://imageevent.com/exhibitman/box...=0&w=4&s=0&z=3

that white hat of jeffries, very cool, bill schutte owned that hat or one of his white hats if jeffries had more than one. bill said his dad would drive him by jeffries house and they would see jeffries working in his garden wearing that white hat.

[Exhibitman]

The photo of Jeff on his farm in Burbank supposedly was from his estate. There is a handwritten in pencil note on the mount "The Good Friends" that looks like his handwriting. I don't know either way, I just enjoy Burbank/Jeffries related materials.