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Old 11-02-2016, 04:24 PM
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/490-Killebrew-Mays-Mantle-1968-Topps-Card-6-Bccg-Beckett-Ex-Mt-Good-Better-/252611116707?hash=item3ad0cbbea3:gdYAAOSwOyJX9Fy t

Here's a BCCG card graded a 6 (Good or better), which would be a 2 in BVG. Although the seller has EX MT in the title. So this is one of those sellers intending to deceive the buyers with a card graded a "6."
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Here's a BCCG card graded a 6 (Good or better), which would be a 2 in BVG. Although the seller has EX MT in the title. So this is one of those sellers intending to deceive the buyers with a card graded a "6."


...Everything about the listing indicates he does not know what he is doing ; wrong category , comparing to "PSA 6" , etc. etc.----more ignorant than deceptive

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Old 11-02-2016, 07:04 PM
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Here's a BCCG card graded a 6 (Good or better), which would be a 2 in BVG. Although the seller has EX MT in the title. So this is one of those sellers intending to deceive the buyers with a card graded a "6."


I actually wasn't aware bccg did vintage.


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I actually wasn't aware bccg did vintage.


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Me neither. I could have sworn anything that met the vintage age would be graded as such and anything newer, 90's and up would be graded BCCG.

Makes me rethink some of the pro's I had for Beckett.
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You're getting their different products confused.

It started with BGS, who graded all cards submitted.
At some point later, there was a split into BGS for modern and BVG for vintage (pre-1980). Early BVG flips show the subgrades, while newer ones do not.

BCCG is a LOW COST, MARGINAL UTILITY grading service for all era's cards that Beckett also provides as a cash grab. However, you can reasonably trust that the cards in BCCG holders are authentic and untrimmed, at least as much as you could any card in a BVG/BGS holder.
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Old 11-03-2016, 04:00 AM
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You're getting their different products confused.

It started with BGS, who graded all cards submitted.
At some point later, there was a split into BGS for modern and BVG for vintage (pre-1980). Early BVG flips show the subgrades, while newer ones do not.

BCCG is a LOW COST, MARGINAL UTILITY grading service for all era's cards that Beckett also provides as a cash grab. However, you can reasonably trust that the cards in BCCG holders are authentic and untrimmed, at least as much as you could any card in a BVG/BGS holder.
Thanks for clearing that up for me, Swarmee.
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