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Old 08-31-2015, 05:16 PM
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Default OT: Shoeless Joe HOF decision?
It is being reported that there will be a decision tomorrow on whether or not Rob Manfred will reinstate Joe Jackson.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybro...on-on-tuesday/

What do you guys think, will he be reinstated or not? Though I think he should be, I am guessing that it is not going to happen. I hope I'm wrong.

correction- title should have read "reinstatement", not HOF
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Old 08-31-2015, 06:05 PM
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Thumbs Up! Reinstatement will be a "Yes"!

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maybe the price of JJ cards will decrease if he is reinstated?????
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Old 08-31-2015, 06:10 PM
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maybe the price of JJ cards will decrease if he is reinstated?????
LOL, maybe I can afford one then.
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It is being reported that there will be a decision tomorrow on whether or not Rob Manfred will reinstate Joe Jackson.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybro...on-on-tuesday/

What do you guys think, will he be reinstated or not? Though I think he should be, I am guessing that it is not going to happen. I hope I'm wrong.

correction- title should have read "reinstatement", not HOF
I'd like to think so but then again there should be stipulations.

#1 this isn't happening just to get Rose to be reinstated.
#2 the other 7 men will be reinstated mainly Cicotte, Williams, and Weaver.
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This is an absolute joke. He needs to stay banned. If they want to reinstate someone from that group, they should reinstate Buck Weaver.
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This is an absolute joke. He needs to stay banned. If they want to reinstate someone from that group, they should reinstate Buck Weaver.
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Old 08-31-2015, 07:25 PM
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I don't really care one way or another. I am deeply passionate about baseball but there are a lot of players who are in who shouldn't be and, arguably, a few out who should be in. I will assure you it is worse from a popularity standpoint for Jackson to be in than it is for him to be out.
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I would think Joe Jax's card values would go up if he were reinstated. There would be all of these HOF collectors that would then need to add a card of his to their collections if he were voted in.
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This is an absolute joke. He needs to stay banned. If they want to reinstate someone from that group, they should reinstate Buck Weaver.
This is the correct answer.
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You know, Cicotte, though a little light on wins, has pretty nice career numbers.
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This is an absolute joke. He needs to stay banned. If they want to reinstate someone from that group, they should reinstate Buck Weaver.
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This is an absolute joke. He needs to stay banned. If they want to reinstate someone from that group, they should reinstate Buck Weaver.
Agreed.

Also, if reinstated I doubt he would be elected to the HOF
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Agreed.

Also, if reinstated I doubt he would be elected to the HOF

This is what I was thinking. Are his career stats even good enough for the hall?
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This is what I was thinking. Are his career stats even good enough for the hall?
What? His career average was .356 incl .408 in 1911.
If he is reinstated & doesn't make the Hall, it will be from the 1919 fix, not his career stats.
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This is an absolute joke. He needs to stay banned. If they want to reinstate someone from that group, they should reinstate Buck Weaver.
Put me down for one ENORMOUS +1 on that. Joe got $5,000, and what he and the other guilty ones did struck near fatal blows to the very heart of the game--who's going to be interested if it is widely believed that the outcome of games is predetermined, other than possibly pro wrestling fans?

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My guess is a "No". Then they would open a can of worms and have to reinstate Rose.
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Why would MLB allow the Museum to make the announcement? They like their own glory.......
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My guess is a "No". Then they would open a can of worms and have to reinstate Rose.
No it wouldn't. Joe Jackson has been banned for like 90 years, while rose has been for like 30.
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It is being reported that there will be a decision tomorrow on whether or not Rob Manfred will reinstate Joe Jackson.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/maurybro...on-on-tuesday/

What do you guys think, will he be reinstated or not? Though I think he should be, I am guessing that it is not going to happen. I hope I'm wrong.

correction- title should have read "reinstatement", not HOF
If Jackson is going to be considered to be reiinstated, then Rose should as well since both were banned for practically the same reason
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I think Rose and Jackson should both stay banished but I don't think they were "banned for practically the same reason"

-Rose bet on baseball. Dealing with bookies is a no-no and every one from a kid in single A ball to a veteran like Rose knows betting on the game is instant expulsion

-Jackson took cash to throw the World Series.

Both admitted doing what they were accused of and both should stay banned.
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And does anyone find it disturbing that MLB is supporting that Fan Duel betting racket?
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Interesting, I did not know that. In what way are they supporting it?
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And does anyone find it disturbing that MLB is supporting that Fan Duel betting racket?
Why did you call it a racket...Its just fantasy the same way you play for a season they just offer daily leagues. Its actually pretty fun. I am not a gambler (I understand the gray area of Fantasy) but have enjoyed the one day leagues very much.
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Joe Jackson could have been voted in but he's only gotten 4 total votes the whole time.
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And does anyone find it disturbing that MLB is supporting that Fan Duel betting racket?
Yes, I do. I'm all for placing a bet, but the fact that the league and the players are allowed to sponsor gambling in this form is an issue. Particularly when players who sponsor the sites, like C.C. Sabathia, would likely be banned for utilizing them.

It's a far cry from when Kuhn suspended Mays and Mantle for being casino greeters
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And does anyone find it disturbing that MLB is supporting that Fan Duel betting racket?
Yes. I'm very glad someone else has noticed this. I find it hard to watch MLB Network because of the constant mentions to Fanduel and daily fantasy lineups.
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I think Rose and Jackson should both stay banished but I don't think they were "banned for practically the same reason"

-Rose bet on baseball. Dealing with bookies is a no-no and every one from a kid in single A ball to a veteran like Rose knows betting on the game is instant expulsion

-Jackson took cash to throw the World Series.

Both admitted doing what they were accused of and both should stay banned.
The similiarities IMO are both were driven by cash.
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