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Old 10-01-2017, 09:07 AM
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Default 1914 Federal Leauge Kansas City Uniform?

The question is...could this photo show the unknown home uniforms for the Kansas City Packers. According to Dressed To The Nines only the road uniforms are known. Packers could be a commonly used team name but a few things stand out as possible clues. The building in the background looks "Big City". KC being a meat packing city the dehorned steer on the wagon stands out. And the entire mode of transportation is rather grand and not small town in appearance. We once had a board member who used "KC Fed" for an avatar. Maybe he is still here. http://exhibits.baseballhalloffame.o...f&Entryid=1940
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Old 10-01-2017, 10:26 AM
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We'd like to think you're right... hoping you are... but...
only ten players plus a mascot? Kind of a short roster... and a very young-looking (high-school / college-age?) roster, at that...
Can you read the name of the company written on the side of the wagon? That might be a clue...
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Agree with above. I would try starting with identifying one of the players from the team in this photo.
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Old 10-01-2017, 04:21 PM
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They look a little young to be the Federal League Packers.

http://sabr.org/research/1915-kansas-city-packers

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Agree with above. I would try starting with identifying one of the players from the team in this photo.
That is right, but we would need a higher res scan posted.
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Old 10-02-2017, 08:03 AM
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Definitely way too young
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Old 10-02-2017, 12:39 PM
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Default Thank You All...

....for the good observations and solid opinions. They could be the high school team sponsored by the company in the background. I was too excited at the possibility of a "Discovery" to notice the fresh faces. Still they got the "Royal" treatment on Main Street!! This should have gone into Leon's thread from 2 years ago regarding teams in the company of animals.
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It could be the Sioux City Packers Western League club. The building behind them appears to be a fire station.
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Old 10-02-2017, 08:03 PM
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Found a photo of the Kansas City Packers' home opener in 1914 here... http://kcbbh.blogspot.com/2014/04/

Neither team had dark uniforms.
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Old 10-02-2017, 09:09 PM
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Hmmm, maybe a possible answer to the mystery?

Here's a photo of what may be the identical wagon, labeled with the company name "Morris & Company", perhaps the largest meat packer in Chicago and Omaha in the first decade or two of the 20th century. Is it possible that they had a sponsored team called the Packers? I believe that this photo is from 1906.


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Agreed. The fact that real meat packers are in the photo doesn't help the theory.
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With the wagon it is logical to assume the team was located in a town with a meat packing/stockyards and a Morris & Company packing plant.
Options:
Chicago: Very large Morris presence but I don't know of any pro level teams called the Packers. Still could be a semi-pro/company team.
Kansas City: Morris had a large presence here. They got in via a shell company located in Boston then caught the other two major companies by surprise. The Kansas City Packers are an option.
Sioux City: Primarily a Armour town, but Morris had a plant here for a while. Western league team called the Packers. They changed nicknames many times. 1905-07(Packers), 1908-09 (Soos) 1910-13(Packers) 1914-1919(Indians) and 1920-23(Packers).
Omaha: Swift, Armour and Morris all had large presence. Local Western League team was not called the Packers until 1930. Omaha South high school was/is called the Packers. Some in the photo look young enough to be high school but not all.
East St. Louis: Large Morris presence but I don't know of any Packers baseball teams in that area.
There are a few others where Morris had a presence but I can find no baseball connection.

Can you make out the logo on the hat?
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