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Old 01-07-2018, 09:31 PM
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Here's an interesting downgrade.
1933 Goudey #3 Hugh Critz. Cert #01103184

Sold in 2005 as a PSA 7 at Memory Lane
https://memorylaneinc.com/site/bids/bidplace?itemid=535

Currently shows up in database as PSA 4.5
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Old 01-13-2018, 02:54 PM
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DATE	PRICE	GRADE	LOT #	AUCTION HOUSE	AUCTION / SELLER	TYPE	CERT
8/8/2008 $11,027.38 8 82 Goodwin and Co. Auctions 1952 Topps Set Auction 11115921
11/10/2010 $853.00 8 169 SCP Auctions SCP Auctions November 2010 Internet Auction Auction 11115921

Ouch.

Same flipper also probably lost $2500 on this one:
8/8/2008	$6,113.53	8	103	Goodwin and Co. Auctions	1952 Topps Set	Auction	04097724
11/10/2010 $3,586.00 8 187 SCP Auctions SCP Auctions November 2010 Internet Auction Auction 04097724


Bloodbath:

8/8/2008 $19,199.50 8 104 Goodwin and Co. Auctions 1952 Topps Set Auction 05098553
11/10/2010 $1,517.00 8 188 SCP Auctions SCP Auctions November 2010 Internet Auction Auction 05098553
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Old 01-13-2018, 03:30 PM
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Results are 7+ years old for the SCP items(s). From your post, looks like SCP sold the same Zernial card 3x in the same auction on the same day / date?
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Old 01-13-2018, 04:33 PM
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Oh, yeah, I get that. If you look, those three cards (and actually a BUNCH more) were bought in the same Goodwin auction and then consigned two years later to SCP where they all fell drastically. There were more I spotted but didn't feel like linking. Maybe it would be a good case study disproving the people that don't think high-grade vintage ever loses ground. Just because 8 is the Top Pop today doesn't mean it will be next month...

Yes, there are some data issues. I report them when I see them so PSA can take them out. I probably reported 20 errors today while browsing 50 different card pages. I went back and checked to see if the ones I reported last couple of weeks have been removed/fixed and a few already were. I wish there was a record of which cards you've reported errors for and whether or not PSA changed them yet.
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Based on what I've read here and by a misreported price on a card that I purchased on eBay, I don't have a lot of confidence in PSA's numbers.

I recently made an offer of $600.00 on a 1960 Eddie Mathews PSA 9 offered for sale on eBay at $649.95. My offer was accepted and the transaction went smoothly. (Yes. I know I overpaid.) However, PSA is reporting the purchase price as the original $649.95.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/192418387887?rmvSB=true

Does anyone know if Vintage Card Prices numbers are more accurate?
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Thanks for letting me know about Best Offers Accepted not being correctly logged by PSA. I will see that they get that information. Usually watchcount shows the proper Best Offer value, but eBay may not be accurately providing it to PSA (or VCP for that matter).
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Thanks for letting me know about Best Offers Accepted not being correctly logged by PSA. I will see that they get that information. Usually watchcount shows the proper Best Offer value, but eBay may not be accurately providing it to PSA (or VCP for that matter).
Do you work for PSA? I use google, ebay advanced search on sold sales and several other sites for pricing. I don't use VCP or any other pay site.
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Old 01-25-2018, 08:30 AM
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No, but I just submitted a correction to the listing. The user HawkDynasty on COMC/ih8ca on Blowout is in direct contact with them about this service.

https://www.blowoutforums.com/showthread.php?t=1178496

So I have an "in". Plus, they've already implemented some of my recommendations and are looking into the others. I work for the U.S. Air Force.
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Old 01-25-2018, 08:46 AM
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Just checked these cards I bought via Best Offer:
11/4/2017	$56.00	7	263293949547	eBay	cookiemonster501	Best Offer	27663581
10/7/2017 $34.00 8 362103254674 eBay psagradedcards.com Best Offer 24266161
10/7/2017 $15.00 1 302431553632 eBay dlemon01 Best Offer 20408951

They have the correct sale price. Maybe there's just a delay involved in retrieving the Best Offer prices.

Just looked up some others and it looks like they've removed pricing data for PSA/DNA autographed cards, rather than just noting that they're autographed. I would prefer to see the autographed cards listed with a note saying they're auto rather than deleting the sales history of those cards.
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Iíve searched this database and found that something like 70% of my purchases on relatively scarce items donít show up (things like bazooka boxes where there are only 7-8 total listed over the past 5 years, and mine from the past few months are not)
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