What's the deal with the Dodgers?

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Understood, but in your argument it doesnt matter if the dodgers won their last 15 games of the year or lost the last 15 if we are just going on what we believe certain pitchers do in the postseason and talking about unknown surprises Last year though Kershaw was very good in the postseason by the way if not great.

Thus, basically it doesnt matter then if a first place teams ends up losing their last 50 games..if their best player are great in the post season and the many many unknown surprises of players who could suck in the regular season be great in the postseason

If kershaw and Darvish win 6 games in the post season etc, that would further show who cares how the #3 to #5 pitchers did for them in many losses..we shall see..

However my point was that if you think regular season record matters during the last 30 games or whatever i would be more concerned how the #1 and #2 pitchers did not the rest of them. In post season #1 pitchers pitch more often as well

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The reason to play the games is the uncertainty of the outcomes. The 1954 Cleveland Indians won 111 games with four starters who won 80.

No, the regular season is not predictive of post season results. It determines who plays, but not the results.

Ask the 1954 New York Giants who swept the Tribe with the help of their unexpected hero, Dusty Rhodes.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The reason to play the games is the uncertainty of the outcomes. The 1954 Cleveland Indians won 111 games with four starters who won 80.

No, the regular season is not predictive of post season results. It determines who plays, but not the results.

Ask the 1954 New York Giants who swept the Tribe with the help of their unexpected hero, Dusty Rhodes.

Of course, but people do bet on games based on prior performances.. Theres a reason there is a betting line. Nothing is certain but there are always situations where the odds are greater.

to me i wouldnt care how a teams #4 and #5 starter did the last 30 games going into the postseason...i would care more on the #1 and #2 starter did. yes there are other pitchers that may come up huge but i am just going by the odds... Back to the thread top ...there would no 'deal' to me for those losses. I wouldnt be asking whats the deal with the dodgers

If Ross Stripling starts this week and takes a loss, does that loss really matter. Would i be saying 'whats wrong with the dodgers?" Nothing would be wrong to me if all they lost were games started by back end guys....

[Peter_Spaeth]

As I did last year (I was close!!), I fear the Indians of Cleveland.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Yu Darvish did fine tonight. I would care more about that that Ross Stripling or whoever losing a game later on.

[bravos4evr]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Yu Darvish did fine tonight. I would care more about that that Ross Stripling or whoever losing a game later on.

but you also need to look at the offense and defense and base running during the losing streak too. Pitchers can do great and still get losses because of things out of their control.(which is why pitcher record is such a bad gauge of quality)

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

but you also need to look at the offense and defense and base running during the losing streak too. Pitchers can do great and still get losses because of things out of their control.(which is why pitcher record is such a bad gauge of quality)

Right you never know. But Starting pitching is the most important factor

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by bravos4evr

but you also need to look at the offense and defense and base running during the losing streak too. Pitchers can do great and still get losses because of things out of their control.(which is why pitcher record is such a bad gauge of quality)

Hmm..dont think there has been any deal with the Dodgers thus far........they dont have to worry about #4 and #5 starters losing games like they did the in the regular season...

[KMayUSA6060]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As I did last year (I was close!!), I fear the Indians of Cleveland.

Smart man.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

As I did last year (I was close!!), I fear the Indians of Cleveland.

And I drink with the Brewers of Milwaukee!

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The reason to play the games is the uncertainty of the outcomes. The 1954 Cleveland Indians won 111 games with four starters who won 80.

No, the regular season is not predictive of post season results. It determines who plays, but not the results.

Ask the 1954 New York Giants who swept the Tribe with the help of their unexpected hero, Dusty Rhodes.

Not to mention the man above men who made "The Catch" with his back turned, 450+ feet away from the plate off Vic Wertz, the incomparable Willie Mays!

Best wishes,

Larry

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The reason to play the games is the uncertainty of the outcomes. The 1954 Cleveland Indians won 111 games with four starters who won 80.

No, the regular season is not predictive of post season results. It determines who plays, but not the results.

Ask the 1954 New York Giants who swept the Tribe with the help of their unexpected hero, Dusty Rhodes.

Yeah the Dodgers have no chance this year in the playoffs. Thus far they are 4-0 in the playoffs in games started by Kershaw and Darvish. That losing streak meant so much on all of those games lost by #4, #5 and #6 starters.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Yeah the Dodgers have no chance this year in the playoffs. Thus far they are 4-0 in the playoffs in games started by Kershaw and Darvish. That losing streak meant so much on all of those games lost by #4, #5 and #6 starters.

Tell me today who will be the MVP of this year’s World Series. I’m getting tired of watching 4+ hour baseball games.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Tell me today who will be the MVP of this year’s World Series. I’m getting tired of watching 4+ hour baseball games.

It wont be anyone from the Indians or Twins or Red Sox.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

It wont be anyone from the Indians or Twins or Red Sox.

Not only is your grammar impeccable and your logic unassailable, you have now demonstrated your true brilliance.

I refuse to accept any argument on Net54 as an example of sound logical principles, including my own which are often laced with a tinge of sarcasm that is often not appreciated or understood.

If one questions the view of a Yankee or Dodger fan for that matter, the likelihood of a rational response based on facts is rare. It is almost as if they are members of the team and the rest of the world is their foe. The questioner becomes instantly identified as a "hater". You can love their enthusiasm, but nary a question of doubt should be raised regarding their idols, whether proven or unproven.

I am not a Kershaw hater and I am not a Judge hater. I wish them both well now and in the future. The psychology of being a rabid fan however I find at times overbearing. Dealing with them (rabid fans) is my problem, whether it is mindless lemmings still doing the tomahawk chop at Atlanta Braves games or the enlightened minions who find solace in some ridiculous hand gesture at a USC football games after the Trojans score their 8th touchdown against Tijuana Tech.

On a message board I try to stay above (or below) the fray. I consider the vast majority of members here friends. A few are not. If you think I'm an idiot for my views, I might think the same of you.

Anything I have said about the current baseball playoffs or players can be taken with a grain of salt including this post.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Badgers down the field.

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

Badgers down the field.

Peter,

I used to work for the Cubs and do understand why folks deride Cubs fans, but you have to respect them and cut them some slack. After all, they waited 108 years between championships.

Excuse me, I have to resume playing "On Wisconsin" on my tenor sax now.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Not only is your grammar impeccable and your logic unassailable, you have now demonstrated your true brilliance.

I refuse to accept any argument on Net54 as an example of sound logical principles, including my own which are often laced with a tinge of sarcasm that is often not appreciated or understood.

If one questions the view of a Yankee or Dodger fan for that matter, the likelihood of a rational response based on facts is rare. It is almost as if they are members of the team and the rest of the world is their foe. The questioner becomes instantly identified as a "hater". You can love their enthusiasm, but nary a question of doubt should be raised regarding their idols, whether proven or unproven.

I am not a Kershaw hater and I am not a Judge hater. I wish them both well now and in the future. The psychology of being a rabid fan however I find at times overbearing. Dealing with them (rabid fans) is my problem, whether it is mindless lemmings still doing the tomahawk chop at Atlanta Braves games or the enlightened minions who find solace in some ridiculous hand gesture at a USC football games after the Trojans score their 8th touchdown against Tijuana Tech.

On a message board I try to stay above (or below) the fray. I consider the vast majority of members here friends. A few are not. If you think I'm an idiot for my views, I might think the same of you.

Anything I have said about the current baseball playoffs or players can be taken with a grain of salt including this post.

Its just your negative views on the Dodgers chances and views of Judge so far are completely wrong so people are having fun at your expense..

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Not only is your grammar impeccable and your logic unassailable, you have now demonstrated your true brilliance.

I refuse to accept any argument on Net54 as an example of sound logical principles, including my own which are often laced with a tinge of sarcasm that is often not appreciated or understood.

If one questions the view of a Yankee or Dodger fan for that matter, the likelihood of a rational response based on facts is rare. It is almost as if they are members of the team and the rest of the world is their foe. The questioner becomes instantly identified as a "hater". You can love their enthusiasm, but nary a question of doubt should be raised regarding their idols, whether proven or unproven.

I am not a Kershaw hater and I am not a Judge hater. I wish them both well now and in the future. The psychology of being a rabid fan however I find at times overbearing. Dealing with them (rabid fans) is my problem, whether it is mindless lemmings still doing the tomahawk chop at Atlanta Braves games or the enlightened minions who find solace in some ridiculous hand gesture at a USC football games after the Trojans score their 8th touchdown against Tijuana Tech.

On a message board I try to stay above (or below) the fray. I consider the vast majority of members here friends. A few are not. If you think I'm an idiot for my views, I might think the same of you.

Anything I have said about the current baseball playoffs or players can be taken with a grain of salt including this post.

Judge doesnt get a hit every time but thus far you are 0-2 (with 2 ks) for your negative views on Judge and also your views on the Dodgers in our many posts. If you want to declare the cubs will be the winner of the dodgers/cubs series now and they come through you can be 1-3

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Judge doesnt get a hit every time but thus far you are 0-2 (with 2 ks) for your negative views on Judge and also your views on the Dodgers in our many posts. If you want to declare the cubs will be the winner of the dodgers/cubs series now and they come through you can be 1-3

Jake, as I said before, the games need to be played to determine the outcome. If the Cubs win the series, I will not be upset. If the Dodgers win, that's fine too. I have a friend who could get me tickets to see Kershaw pitch in the World Series.

Stating that Judge struck out over 200 times in the regular season is not a positive or negative view. It is simply a statistic. In the current nomenclature of analytic baseball, strikeouts are non-productive outs though. With the recent escalation of both strikeouts and home runs in the game, I suspect that someday an Aaron Judge Jr will hit 90 home runs and strike out 300 times. Will such an AJ Jr be considered favorably to Babe Ruth or Mickey Mantle? I haven't a clue.

Judge as a 25 year-old rookie, who appeared this year out of nowhere, remains unproven. Time will tell. I hope he knocks the train off the tracks in Houston and hits 10 home runs in the World Series. Hopefully for your sake, none of the 10 will be off Kershaw.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Tell me today who will be the MVP of this year’s World Series. I’m getting tired of watching 4+ hour baseball games.

Chris Taylor, he of the 446 ft. Homer.

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

Tell me today who will be the MVP of this year’s World Series. I’m getting tired of watching 4+ hour baseball games.

Aaron Judge