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Old 07-27-2009, 10:22 AM
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Default Baseball sheet music

Greetings,

I picked this up at a flea market yesterday just becasue it was cheap and I thought it was neat. In the past I purchased a small pile of sheet music at a yard sale and have actually framed a few of the more humorous themes (not baseball, more like saloons) and hung them in my house. This is my first baseball pick-up and am curious as to their value in case I ever stumble upon more in the future. I know it can't be much because A) most pieces I've seen like this one aren't in great shape and B) they printed a lot of this stuff back in the day.

While doing some research I noticed the Library of Congress has a nice collection of baseball sheet music on line. I'm sure some of the collectors here have impressive collections of sheet music too.

Thanks in advance,
Jim

(PS: Sorry about the poor scan, was trying to reduce image as much as I could. The patchwork pattern is from the scanner, not the sheet music itself.)
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Old 07-27-2009, 09:49 PM
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Hard to tell from the scan so can you tell whether it is the 1927 or 1936 copy?

Thanks.
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Old 07-28-2009, 07:11 AM
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It is the 1936 copy.

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Old 07-28-2009, 10:24 AM
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Thanks Jim.

I was wondering because the 1927 copy is the one where Norworth changed the opening verse - basically changing the character from Katie Casey to Nelly Kelly.

There are about 25 different covers for the music dating all the way back to October 31, 1908 when the song was first published.
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Old 07-28-2009, 11:04 AM
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Default 25 Variation covers

As Steve has stated, I've cataloged 25 different variations.

The HOF had stated there was 11. In the last 5 yrs, I've been scouring ebay for copies.

What's ironic is the fact that I was missing 2 copies for 5 yrs and found both within 3 wks!!

For those not familiar - the difference in the sheet music variations is the photo of the singer on the front.

Plus 2 singers have variations of themselves - e.g. Trixie Friganza - one portrait, one standing.

The 24th was Jack Norworth himself - I did see one a few yrs ago and was signed - it went for more money than I anticipated!



Also, the 1927 version - which I picked up a few yrs ago does have the change in verse characters - Katie Casey/Nelly Kelly - I have never read why he changed them?

This has been one of the more enjoyable areas of my collecting.

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Old 07-28-2009, 11:57 AM
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Welcome to Net54 Mike. Knowing you were not signed up yet I took the liberty of passing your information on to the poster.

You are the man when it comes to Sheet Music!!

(Not so bad over here if you just filter out the BS)
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Old 07-28-2009, 01:26 PM
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Default Baseball Sheet Music Collection

We have been active collectors of Baseball Sheet Music for over 25 years,

Our efforts have been focused exclusively on player and/or team endorsed sheet music which have photos on the cover. We have more than 20 different rare pieces including two pieces of Federal League Sheet Music and 12 different Hall of Famers gracing the cover of the music.

The Smithsonian Collection and the Frank and Peggy Steele collection which
resides in the Hall of Fame are the most interesting collections, extant.

Please write to us privately should you wish any details


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Old 07-28-2009, 01:32 PM
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Default Important Sheet Music From The Dorskind Collection

Sheet Music From The Dorskind Collection

1941 "Joltin Joe Diamaggio" Autographed Sheet Music
"They All Knew Cobb"
Sheet Music (10 Pieces) 1900-35.
Oh You Babe Ruth"
"King Of Clubs" 1912 With Ty Cobb
1904 "Boston Champions" With Jimmy Collins
"I Can't Get To First Base Without You", With Lou Gehrig
1910 "Climbers Rag" St. Louis
1915 "Feds Are Here To Stay".
1907 White Sox March - Mint"
Bucky Boy
1954 Willie Mays Signed "Oh Sey Hey" 1943 Let’s Go Root For The Dodgers .
1904 Husky Hans Come Out To Where The Buffalo Feds Play
1953 Brooklyn Dodgers Jump Sheet Music
1919 Cincinnati Reds Song Sheet Music


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Here are a few that I have....

"1885, National Music Company"


"Dream Of Heaven"(1899) with Philip Sousa's baseball team on the back. Funny thing is, I can only find the "Three Strikes Two-Step" as being published in 1902.???



Copyright 1910
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:07 PM
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Welcome to Net54 Mike. Knowing you were not signed up yet I took the liberty of passing your information on to the poster.

You are the man when it comes to Sheet Music!!

(Not so bad over here if you just filter out the BS)
Thanx Steve, I was a member in the old net54 but haven't posted much.

To be honest, I'm a Take me out to the ball game collector and only pick up other sheet music that looks interesting.

I just missed out on a rare piece of sheet music from the 1860s.

I got into sheet music collecting because of Take me out... and it's become a real joy - I have a feeling that there aren't many who have 25 different variations to the piece which IMO is the 'cornerstone' to baseball and it's music.
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Old 07-28-2009, 04:29 PM
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Very nice pieces Shawn.

I have the Bauer "Dream" waltz with Sousa on the back.

Here's the front for those interested:



Have never seen the Baseball Waltz copy.

Here's a copy of the Waltz from 1902 - I've seen 'repros' of it on ebay but have not looked for the original.



I've seen the copyright of 1902 also - perhaps the ad on the back was just kind of early?

Thanx for sharing!

edit: forgot to add a scan of the 1927 copy of Take me out...with the lyric change:


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Old 07-29-2009, 06:21 AM
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Nice pieces guys

My two and only pieces of sheet music

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Red Sox Speed Boys 1912 Champs

After last night's horrible performance by the bullpen, I'm afraid I'll have to add a copy of "The Fat Lady Sings..." to my collection

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Old 07-29-2009, 06:51 AM
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Here is my White Sox March of 1907 that Bruce described:



Here's a strange one with Mike Donlin:



I used to have this one but I think it now resides in Jerry S's collection:

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Old 07-29-2009, 11:57 AM
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Default Team oriented sheet music

Very nice guys.

I like sheet music with teams on it - tho sometimes the competition heats up for that reason.

Thanx for sharing - this has been very entertaining.

mike
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