ebay seller - probstein123

[jimjim]

Any experience with him before?

[jgmp123]

Yeah. He takes on consigned items from other individuals as well as selling some items himself.

I have purchased and sold many items to him and haven't had any issues, but know some here have...If you do a search, i'm sure it will turn up a thread or two.

Like this one... http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...t=probstein123

[jimjim]

Thanks. I was just wondering why his auctions consistently sell for significantly higher than other sellers auctions for the exact same items (ie. autographs). Just thought that was a bit strange. Thanks for the feedback.

[slidekellyslide]

Probably because there is rampant shilling going on in his auctions.

[Real or fake?]

I don't have a horse in this race and do not want to be part of the discussion. To those who accuse him of shilling, your accusations are noted. I have no way of knowing weather he does or not. Obviously if it goes on it's a terrible thing.

[btcarfagno]

Originally Posted by Real or fake?

Probstein123 sells more memorabillia than any one seller on ebay. Many collectors know this and look out for his auctions. Also each auction brings attention to his other items. I have bought from his auctions multiple times and watch them frequently and I don't notice a crazy increase in the prices he gets. He also works on small percentages; meaning he takes a small percentage of the sale price as a consignment fee, so shilling wouldn't help him that much. Do you have any evidence that this happens, or are you making random accusations?

If you do a search for probstein on this site, you will eventually come to an absolute clusterf*** of a thread that went into some fairly sordid detail as I recall regarding some fairly damning evidence on the card side. I don't think that the accusation is that he himself is doing the shilling, but rather is fairly knowledgeable that it is happening and is doing nothing at all about it.

I don't really have a dog in the fight. I give him a lot of credit for the business that he has built.

Tom C

[gnaz01]

Originally Posted by Real or fake?

Probstein123 sells more memorabillia than any one seller on ebay. Many collectors know this and look out for his auctions. Also each auction brings attention to his other items. I have bought from his auctions multiple times and watch them frequently and I don't notice a crazy increase in the prices he gets. He also works on small percentages; meaning he takes a small percentage of the sale price as a consignment fee, so shilling wouldn't help him that much. Do you have any evidence that this happens, or are you making random accusations?

And your name is???? (rules of the forum)

[vintagetoppsguy]

Originally Posted by Real or fake?

Do you have any evidence that this happens, or are you making random accusations?

Yes, I have evidence. Read post #39 in this thread. I laid it out pretty clearly...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=174881

It's been pointed out to Rick several times that his consignors shill their items, yet he chooses to do nothing about it. He still lets them consign and he still lets them bid. How do you feel about that?

[Duluth Eskimo]

Originally Posted by Real or fake?

Probstein123 sells more memorabillia than any one seller on ebay. Many collectors know this and look out for his auctions. Also each auction brings attention to his other items. I have bought from his auctions multiple times and watch them frequently and I don't notice a crazy increase in the prices he gets. He also works on small percentages; meaning he takes a small percentage of the sale price as a consignment fee, so shilling wouldn't help him that much. Do you have any evidence that this happens, or are you making random accusations?

Are you kidding? You can't be serious if you have been on this forum for longer than ten minutes. It has pretty much been proven beyond a reasonable doubt more times than most members can keep straight.

I agree with previous posts about people putting their names in if you are going to side with an obvious shiller.

[brewing]

Damn. It has been awhile since we've had a 123 thread.


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