LOL. Not a signature.

[Brian Van Horn]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Topps-F...cAAOSwmLlX~Yux

[rjackson44]

brian this is so funny omg...

[MikeGarcia]

If you put duct tape over the " Mrs." it's a signature.....you guy...jeez!!

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[MrSeven]

Originally Posted by MikeGarcia

If you put duct tape over the " Mrs." it's a signature.....you guy...jeez!!

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Got me thinking. This seems like murky territory if someone cut & submitted to PSA/JSA (assuming it was actually penned in the hand of Mr. Wagner). Okay or dishonest? Would they even authenticate? If I write my name or sign my name we're talking about two different things.

I think I'd be pretty upset without that disclosure... I'm pretty clueless about Wagner autographs.

[sycks22]

And to think someone at Topps got paid for this.

[conor912]

I've always wondered about the old-timers homes and, if still still standing, they carry a premium, or if no one even bats an eye as to who lived there previously.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...11254169_zpid/

[MrSeven]

Originally Posted by conor912

I've always wondered about the old-timers homes and, if still still standing, they carry a premium, or if no one even bats an eye as to who lived there previously.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...11254169_zpid/

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3...86093671_zpid/

[frankbmd]

In defense of Topps, it is a little known fact that Mrs. Wagner was also named "Honus".

Furthermore Mr. Wagner only wrote one letter to his wife, so this is

"a secretarial signature of Mrs Wagner penned by Mr. Wagner and is in fact a true 1 of 1."

Hope this helps.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

If he wrote the name the same way he signed his name I'd say it's OK. Basically if it passes as a cut it IS a cut.

[Paul S]

Originally Posted by conor912

I've always wondered about the old-timers homes and, if still still standing, they carry a premium, or if no one even bats an eye as to who lived there previously.

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/6...11254169_zpid/

A few years ago, discussed here briefly, Gehrig's house was up for sale. Had a tough time selling.

[T206Collector]

It's a pretty sweet "J. Honus Wagner" signature, if you ask me. I do agree that the intent of the signer here -- that he was addressing this to someone other than himself -- makes it funky. But, what constitutes a "signature" is a rabbit hole the journey through which has many twists and turns. While most people prefer a signature that was designed by the subject to represent his or her name, why that should matter is a really difficult question to answer that raises a fundamental philosophical question - why do people collect the signatures of people in the first place? What about that medium creates interest?

You see this sometimes in Ty Cobb signatures as well. I think he wrote letters to his son Ty Junior. People pass those off as Ty Cobb signatures as well, with the same expected raised eyebrows.

[prewarsports]

I have had several envelopes of deadball era players where they wrote to their wives and wrote their own names with "mrs" in front and they absolutely are autographs. I hate the cut up cards, but that is a nice signature and I would rather have one of those than two of his later in life signatures with that crazy H he signed with.

[MrSeven]

Originally Posted by prewarsports

I have had several envelopes of deadball era players where they wrote to their wives and wrote their own names with "mrs" in front and they absolutely are autographs. I hate the cut up cards, but that is a nice signature and I would rather have one of those than two of his later in life signatures with that crazy H he signed with.

Do you think that a cut would be worth less if their handwriting was different than their traditional signature?

[MikeGarcia]

Originally Posted by Paul S

A few years ago, discussed here briefly, Gehrig's house was up for sale. Had a tough time selling.

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..I'd love to live in Jesse Pinkman's home , but I wouldn't ever use that bathroom or go into that basement....

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[Bpm0014]

I've always wondered about the old-timers homes and, if still still standing, they carry a premium, or if no one even bats an eye as to who lived there previously.

The house is still there, in Carnegie, and if I recall correctly was sold/purchased in the last 5-10 years for a modest sum ($150,000ish)...

[conor912]

Originally Posted by Bpm0014

I've always wondered about the old-timers homes and, if still still standing, they carry a premium, or if no one even bats an eye as to who lived there previously.

The house is still there, in Carnegie, and if I recall correctly was sold/purchased in the last 5-10 years for a modest sum ($150,000ish)...

Wouldn't that be the house where his wife allegedly discovered the Gretzky Wagner, in strip form, in some of his things after his death? Or maybe I have the story completely wrong....

[clydepepper]

I have frequently seen it said that Wagner had 'bowed' legs.

I guess being a Mrs. and playing short will do that to you.


Thanks for noticing, Brian




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[swarmee]

Maybe not technically a signature, but would be labeled as an autograph by PSA. If they determine it is authentic.
I have an entire index card written on by a 1948 NFL player that is slabbed authentic auto and I don't think his name is written on it once.

[mighty bombjack]

http://net54baseball.com/showthread....s+an+autograph

A conversation from 5 years ago on the autograph side. Stupid photobucket has erased the images...

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

I have frequently seen it said that Wagner had 'bowed' legs.

I guess being a Mrs. and playing short will do that to you.


Thanks for noticing, Brian




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Uh, thank you, Raymond. It made me think.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2016-Topps-F...cAAOSwmLlX~Yux

It is Honus Wagner written in pencil. I guess if he wrote it then so be it....kind of a unique one..

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[Bill77]

Well that one is better than this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Honus-Wagner....c100005.m1851