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Old 09-08-2005, 11:52 AM
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Posted By: Jay Miller

My guess would be $100K for the trimmed, but nice, Anson in Uniform. This assumes a noticeable trim but not one that removes the bottom ad. I base this on the fact that the Anson in Uniform is more valuable than the T210 Jackson and the REA Jackson sold for almost $100K while only being graded authentic.

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Old 09-08-2005, 12:28 PM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Fair enough.

But remember...there was some "debate" about whether or not the T210 Jackson was trimmed or not. The buyer obviously believes that it was not -- that it was only a "wavy handcut" done at the factory.

In my example... while the trimming is so minor that it does not affect the image and none of the words are missing on the Anson... it is UNDENIABLY trimmed.

I may be wrong, but I do not think the T210 Jackson would have gone for so much if the side borders had been cut a little bit closer to the photo so that nobody could deny that it had been trimmed.

Or maybe the top corners had been snipped ever so slightly to put it into an album holder.





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Old 09-08-2005, 12:43 PM
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Posted By: Scott Elkins

Cy Young Just So - $2Million (just so the trimmed and questionable Wagner wouldn't be the most expensive card any longer).

I would also want a Cobb Back. However, I have always liked the PSA 2 with "J.H." on the reverse. I would just find out who owns that one and make them an offer they couldn't refuse!

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Old 09-08-2005, 12:45 PM
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Posted By: identify7

Does it matter pricewise if the trimming is intended to be deceptive in an attempt to defraud a buyer, or the trimming is done for other reasons?

Are pinholes worse than trimming? How about professionally filled pinholes, which fool the grading services 100% of the time; but the seller admits to.

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Old 09-08-2005, 12:50 PM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

The trimming is such that NOBODY could ever unslab the card and sell it as untrimmed.

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Old 09-08-2005, 01:24 PM
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1) A fairly nice VG-EX T206 Honus Wagner $125k
2) A fairly nice VG-EX T206 Ty Cobb w/Ty Cobb back card $50-75k
3) A fairly nice VG-EX T206 Plank $10k
4) A fairly nice VG-EX 1914 Babe Ruth Baltimore News $75k
5) A fairly nice VG-EX 1893 "Just So" Cy Young D don't know.
6) A fairly nice VG-EX 1903 E107 Breisch Williams Christy Mathewson card Don't know.

I would guess Hal is in the ballpark for hypothetical Mint 9 Wagner with impeccable provenace. The first time out of the block I would guess 3-5 million and continue to go up from there. The questions around the 8 have not hurt it at all, or so it seems.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

The latest updated prices:


T206 Wagner = $100,100

T206 Cobb/Cobb = $50,100

1914 Ruth = $75,100

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Old 09-15-2005, 12:53 AM
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1) A fairly nice VG-EX T206 Honus Wagner $150k
2) A fairly nice VG-EX T206 Ty Cobb w/Ty Cobb back card $50K
3) A fairly nice VG-EX T206 Plank $5k
4) A fairly nice VG-EX 1914 Babe Ruth Baltimore News $75k
5) A fairly nice VG-EX 1893 "Just So" Cy Young 50k
6) A fairly nice VG-EX 1903 E107 Breisch Williams Christy Mathewson card --i DON'T LIKE IT (as opposed to most of the other B-Ws)
7) '14 CJ Mathewson--almost regular price. Clean? Clear? You bet.
8) '52 mantle--I don't want one.
9) '49 Leaf Paige, 1k.

Oj Anson in Uniform--how do you tell when an OJ is trimmed, anyway? Plenty...

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Old 09-15-2005, 04:42 AM
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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Julie:

You and I are on the same page with the 1914 CJ Matty.

If you could find one that was in MINT condition but slightly trimmed...

it would be the BEST CONDITIONED example of this particular card in the world since most of them have caramel stains, etc.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

Obviously all of us were WAY UNDER on the price of a nice trimmed T206 Plank.

Our average price estimate was around $4,000.

It just sold on Mastro for $20,000 (including the juice)!!



Anyone want to resubmit their price estimates??

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Old 12-22-2005, 06:37 AM
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Posted By: Darren J. Duet

My answers were based off the original question, "How much would you pay for......?" I wasn't estimating current market values.

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Old 12-22-2005, 06:47 AM
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Posted By: JimCrandell

Ugh, I never would buy a trimmed card. The only way I would buy any of these is if I knew I had a buyer on the other end and I could get rid of it in under an hour.

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Old 12-22-2005, 06:55 AM
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Posted By: Anonymous

Funny as such a staunch PSA supporter, you are not concerned about "SLIGHTLY" trimmed cards being slabbed in your collection.

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Old 12-22-2005, 09:06 AM
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Posted By: JimCrandell

I am concerned--thats why I asked a couple of experts to review my cards.

I realize that there are altered cards that are slabbed.

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