PSA president just blew my mind

[AddieJoss]

I’ve asked why they won’t breakdown t205 back on labels. They there is no difference in value. Which is inaccurate as well. It can be their honest answer but was their answer.

Cory Weiser

[Leon]

Originally Posted by AddieJoss

I’ve asked why they won’t breakdown t205 back on labels. They there is no difference in value. Which is inaccurate as well. It can be their honest answer but was their answer.

Cory Weiser

If anyone at PSA said that, or anywhere for that matter, then it proves they don't collect the series. Piedmont, Hindu, Drum all the same value? Ignorance is bliss.

[puckpaul]

at least they grade them. they haven't been grading the M101 sporting news premiums, which i think is a big factor in the low interest in them (see the prices in the Heritage auction...ridiculously cheap for their beauty and rarity and the details on the back of the players, a true rarity before the Goudeys 30+ years later). i know, they are large sized and rare, so i get that it's a low priority....anyway...

[ALBB]

The DelFonics - Didn't I blow your mind this time...

pretty good song

[bobbyw8469]

Didn't they grade a Nolan Ryan newspaper clipping one time?

[glchen]

Larry, I don't think what PSA's president told you was quite what has been PSA's long standing policy. I've also tried to get a lot of uncatalogued cards graded, and what customer support at PSA has always told me is that if the card is not is not some standard catalog (e.g, Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards), then PSA will not grade it. So the process has always been, first get your card catalogued (which won't be easy anymore since the Standard Catalog is going out of business), then come back to PSA to show that the card is now catalogued, and then they will grade it. This has worked for me before for some W590 cards that I was trying to grade.

Regarding variations, I would think that first the variation has to be known in some catalog like the above, and then you would need to prove the difference in value among the variations like PSA has said. Even then, they may decide not to grade it. It's up to them. This is why I use all three TPG's PSA, SGC and Beckett. The cards that PSA doesn't grade, I sent to SGC (e.g., Real Photo Postcards). The cards that PSA and SGC don't grade, then I send to Beckett (e.g., notepads).

BTW, regarding newspaper clippings, I think all 3 TPG's grade these (e.g., 1927 Rinkeydink stamps)

[sflayank]

You're right
I know it's not their long standing policy
He made that up on the fly
They grade and label dozens of variations that have no extra value and they grade many items not in the bible

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by glchen

Larry, I don't think what PSA's president told you was quite what has been PSA's long standing policy. I've also tried to get a lot of uncatalogued cards graded, and what customer support at PSA has always told me is that if the card is not is not some standard catalog (e.g, Standard Catalog of Baseball Cards), then PSA will not grade it. So the process has always been, first get your card catalogued (which won't be easy anymore since the Standard Catalog is going out of business),

Are we sure the Standard Catalog is going out of business? There is a huge difference between Chapter 11 bankruptcy and not staying in business. If F&W is able to re-org in bankruptcy court, then we may see new versions thereof. In other words, has this been announced publicly yet?

Regards
Rich

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by ALBB

The DelFonics - Didn't I blow your mind this time...

pretty good song

One of the first major Gamble/Huff, etc hits. A wonderful time in R&B music

Another Philly hit from about the same time and EVEN on theme for this board

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm-KijvGT0M

[ALBB]

Oh..I thought out of Chicago way ??

[Rich Klein]

Originally Posted by ALBB

Oh..I thought out of Chicago way ??

On rare occasions, I get one correct

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Delfonics

I bet you are thinking of either the Mighty Dells or the Impressions

Rich

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Rich Klein

One of the first major Gamble/Huff, etc hits. A wonderful time in R&B music.

You probably mean era and genre, but all of the Delfonics hit songs were produced and co-written by Thom Bell.

[Rich Klein]

Yeah I do, thanks for the correction. Thom Bell is as much of the Philly sound as Gamble/Huff.

Rich

[AddieJoss]

Originally Posted by Leon

If anyone at PSA said that, or anywhere for that matter, then it proves they don't collect the series. Piedmont, Hindu, Drum all the same value? Ignorance is bliss.

Leon, I made a valiant effort with no success. It’s not accurate, but see no other reason they won’t label T205s like T206s with the backs, and that is the bologna reason they gave me multiple times.

Cory Weiser

[BleedinBlue]

Originally Posted by AddieJoss

Leon, I made a valiant effort with no success. It’s not accurate, but see no other reason they won’t label T205s like T206s with the backs, and that is the bologna reason they gave me multiple times.

Cory Weiser

Bobby fought the same battle for me on T203 backs a year ago. PSA would not recognize the Winner Back on the label and instead listed the cards as Mayo’s. There is a clear difference in value but so be it. Should I ever choose to sell a scan of the back clearly shows the brand. But it would be nice if the pop reports reflected the scarcity of the backs.

[bobbyw8469]

Originally Posted by BleedinBlue

Bobby fought the same battle for me on T203 backs a year ago. PSA would not recognize the Winner Back on the label and instead listed the cards as Mayo’s. There is a clear difference in value but so be it. Should I ever choose to sell a scan of the back clearly shows the brand. But it would be nice if the pop reports reflected the scarcity of the backs.

PSA flat out doesn't care. For cards they mislabel (I've done it numerous times on Milton Bradley's mislabeled as Topps), I state what they REALLY are. True collectors will bid on the card and not the label. At least that is what I tell myself.