Show...me...your print variations!

[Tedwilliams1918]

How do I do a post in the main thread? To start a new thread?

[ALR-bishop]

Not clear what you are asking. If you want to start a new thread in this post war section there is new thread icon on upper left of main page. Same for main page for all sections

[philliesfan]

A couple of 1978 bleeding blue hockey cards.
1978 Hockey Bleeds .jpg

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by philliesfan

A couple of 1978 bleeding blue hockey cards.
Attachment 601647

I can’t believe they issued a card glorifying the top Penalty Minutes Leader goons. Marty McSorley must not have been playing yet.

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

I can’t believe they issued a card glorifying the top Penalty Minutes Leader goons. Marty McSorley must not have been playing yet.

I was thinking the same thing!

By the way, McSorley stated in the NHL in 1983 so you are correct.

Mike

[steve B]

I started collecting right about the time Dave Shultz was setting the record.
The penalty leaders card and the cards of the leaders were about equal to guys like Phil Eposito, maybe more popular.

[bnorth]

Originally Posted by wpeters

These two beauties were in a lot I bought recently.

That Davis is awesome.

[Sliphorn]

Notice the black line across his left hand. I was told by the eBay seller that this is the common and the one I had with NO line is tougher.

[G1911]

The no line is definitely easier. Also, I’ve never come across a Katt without that black blob in the lower left of the name box.

[ALR-bishop]

Checked and one in my set has no line…yeah

[Sliphorn]

Originally Posted by G1911

The no line is definitely easier. Also, I’ve never come across a Katt without that black blob in the lower left of the name box.

Actually there are many out there without the black dot, but so far all without also have a small yellow vertical line at the left, likely due to a slight print shift.

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Sliphorn

Actually there are many out there without the black dot, but so far all without also have a small yellow vertical line at the left, likely due to a slight print shift.

Guess I have to go buy another card. Oh no

[swarmee]

1970 Topps - [Base] #706 - High # - John McNamara
Courtesy of COMC.com


1970 Topps - [Base] #706 - High # - John McNamara
Courtesy of COMC.com

Print dot/hickey above the R in McNamara on the back. Without defect is much less common that with the print defect. Must have been something on the original printing plate.

[Sliphorn]

The right version with two white spots on the second "i" in "Cincinnati" is apparently recurring as I see one on eBay currently.

[jp1216]

1991 Upper Deck Dave Winfield. Odd "Mr Peanut" print defect. Something blocked the color process? Drops of water on the sheet blocking it?

[butchie_t]

Hahahah,

You win the day with that one! That is freaking cool!

[swarmee]

That variation is awesome. If it was higher up, it would look like a comic thought bubble.

[Elberson]

Ok started my new set of 1961 Topps I found a couple of oddballs

351 power for Ernie blue hair line bottom boarder. Can be found without hair
381 wickersham boarder break. Can be found without
434 brewer black spot outside boarder. Can be found without

Any other cool ones out there?

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by Elberson

Ok started my new set of 1961 Topps I found a couple of oddballs

351 power for Ernie blue hair line bottom boarder. Can be found without hair
381 wickersham boarder break. Can be found without
434 brewer black spot outside boarder. Can be found without

Any other cool ones out there?

Here is my listing of variation and/or print errors I have in my 1961 Topps set. Many more out there.

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Mike

[Elberson]

Now that’s a list……thanks

[rhettyeakley]

Anyone ever seen a 1971 with the blue area on bottom left of this Cedeno RC?

I have a Cardinals team card with a blue "fisheye" but hadn't seen anything like on the Cedeno. It almost looks like there is the end of the letter "g" or number "8" that was to the left of the card.

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by rhettyeakley

Anyone ever seen a 1971 with the blue area on bottom left of this Cedeno RC?

I have a Cardinals team card with a blue "fisheye" but hadn't seen anything like on the Cedeno. It almost looks like there is the end of the letter "g" or number "8" that was to the left of the card.

It looks like it says ‘SLIT B’, the 1971 Cedeno undoubtedly must have been on the left side of the sheet.

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

It looks like it says ‘SLIT B’, the 1971 Cedeno undoubtedly must have been on the left side of the sheet.

Cliff - You are correct!

Mike

Cedeno.jpg

[ALR-bishop]

I have a few to add to Mike's 61 Topps variant list

-3 Burkhardt--yellow band on arm near sleeve
-38 Lillis--green in bb on back like Fairly
-56 Kemmerer--green line at cap
-62 Pilarcik--shape can be blue or yellow
-64 Grammas--blue dot on neck
-66 Henry--red dot in infield
-71 Adair--red dot at top of of box at bottom
-103 Amaro--irregular black bottom left border
-130--Larkin---differences in white shapes at top
-137 Dressen-missing black in Chuck
-161 Jones--yellow dot in team box
-178 Nieman--two blue dots above shoulder
-242 Smith--green line upper left below border
-292 Baumer--yellow mark above team
-377 Gomez--blue mark left of cap
-405 Gehrig--black teeth... do not think it is post
-461MacKensie--missing position and team name and black border
-471 Rizzuto--black line across top border
-483 Zimmer-- red mark to left of right arm
-501 Demerit---green in bb on back, like Fairly

[frankhardy]

Since I'm a Cardinal collector I am wondering if the 1961 Topps Power for Ernie (blue hair) is reoccurring? Also is the 1971 Topps Cardinals team card with the blue fish eye reoccurring?

[ALR-bishop]

Not sure about the fish eye but Ernie's Power is recurring

[mikemb]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I have a few to add to Mike's 61 Topps variant list

-3 Burkhardt--yellow band on arm near sleeve
-38 Lillis--green in bb on back like Fairly
-56 Kemmerer--green line at cap
-62 Pilarcik--shape can be blue or yellow
-64 Grammas--blue dot on neck
-66 Henry--red dot in infield
-71 Adair--red dot at top of of box at bottom
-103 Amaro--irregular black bottom left border
-130--Larkin---differences in white shapes at top
-137 Dressen-missing black in Chuck
-161 Jones--yellow dot in team box
-178 Nieman--two blue dots above shoulder
-242 Smith--green line upper left below border
-292 Baumer--yellow mark above team
-377 Gomez--blue mark left of cap
-405 Gehrig--black teeth... do not think it is post
-461MacKensie--missing position and team name and black border
-471 Rizzuto--black line across top border
-483 Zimmer-- red mark to left of right arm
-501 Demerit---green in bb on back, like Fairly

Thanks Al for the list. Very much appreciated.

Looks like I have some searching to do.

Mike

[Geomorphic]

Is this considered a "variation"? Very cool and interesting take on the original IMO

[butchie_t]

A registration (or print) defect. But still a nice addition to a master set.

Congrats.

Butch

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Geomorphic

Is this considered a "variation"? Very cool and interesting take on the original IMO

Like Butchie says no but it is awesome.

[Tedwilliams1918]

Question for big AL you have everything else even the 1958 mantles I love….do you have this crazy 1969 rookies???? This one just sold for 13,500 and a raw one in my fb group did $9500 I was told

[G1911]

1954 Topps #234 Jerry Lynch - assists and errors for 1953 partially obscured. Noticed it while playing with my 54 set this morning. I checked COMC and 1 out of the 16 Lynch's they have listed has this defect, so it is recurring and probably less common than the correct copy.

[Tedwilliams1918]

Too bad it’s not completely gone or I’d be buying one! Phil rizzuto has one like that too

[G1911]

Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918

Too bad it’s not completely gone or I’d be buying one! Phil rizzuto has one like that too

The more that's missing, the better. Thank you, I did not know there was a Rizzuto one too. Another card to track down

[G1911]

The Rizzuto Teddy Ballgame brought up - lifetime triples partially obscured.

12 out of 17 on COMC right now have it obscured, so looks like this one won't be hard to add to my set and might be more common than the properly printed version. Maybe I'm just behind the curve on this one

[ALR-bishop]

Was aware of Rizzuto and have one. Pretty pretty sure it showed here earlier. Maybe Thomas/sliphorn ?

Did not know about Lynch

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by Tedwilliams1918

Question for big AL you have everything else even the 1958 mantles I love….do you have this crazy 1969 rookies???? This one just sold for 13,500 and a raw one in my fb group did $9500 I was told

Of course he does , post #319 on page 7 of this thread.

[G1911]

While checking which Rizzuto I have (I'm sure I've missed or don't recall posts among the 2,800+), I remembered the Jackie defects I don't think have been mentioned before.

There are multiple recurring minor defects on the back of 1954 Topps #10 Jackie Robinson. My copy here has a white triangle next to his 12 home runs, a white slash next to P.O., and the F. Avg. label is partially obscured.

Here's one from COMC, with with the P of P.O. partially obscured, and the F. Avg. incomplete. Notice his 136 games is also partially obscured.

Third, a copy from COMC with the F. Avg. complete to show it's not all cards that come this way.

There are at minimum several different total combinations of recurring defects, some easy and some rare-very rare.

Defects are a lot more fun on cheap commons

[G1911]

A second star card recurring defect I don't recall hearing anyone else talk about somewhere is on Ed Mathews. White blob across from mini-B&W Mathews arm, crossing into the blue backdrop from the border. This defect is significantly less common than the correct copy, but I don't recall it being super rare.

If I know about a defect in advance on a star card, I usually try to pick it up for my set and just skip the correct copy. Having all the defects is super fun when it costs me $1.25 for Jerry Lynch, it's not super fun when its $20 for Mathews or $150 or whatever it is these days for a Jackie

EDIT TO TAG PROPERLY FOR SEARCH FUNCTIONS: 1954 Topps #30 Ed Eddie Mathews

[ALR-bishop]

Darren used to have one of the 69 Pirates Rookies for trade in his BST thread

[ALR-bishop]

Fo me the most interesting , and expensive variation for 54 was the white arm band on Mays. It is so plentiful I wonder if it was DP like the 52 Mantle, Robinson and Thompson

[philliesfan]

Another red bleed covering names.
Bob
1969 AL Rookie Stars .jpg

[philliesfan]

Merlin the Magician makes you see double.
Bob
Merlin Olson Error.jpg

[ALR-bishop]

1961

[ALR-bishop]

I do have a variant for this card but what I really want to know is who is this ?

[G1911]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

I do have a variant for this card but what I really want to know is who is this ?

I believe it is actually Eddie Fisher pictured.

The versions I know are the ones with a yellow mark in the team box, another copy with blue marks adjacent to his head, and the cleanly printed copy.

[G1911]

And since we are asking questions....

Anyone have a 1954 Topps Larry Doby without this yellow mark above his position? Also haven't come across a Frank Baumholtz without the blue streak next to his cap. I'd love an excuse to add a Larry Doby card back onto my want list.

[Elberson]

Found another 1961 odd ball 59 Jim woods…..blue man version!!! Wet transfer? The blue in his jersey is also seen in his white jersey too

[Exhibitman]

You guys have some eagle eyes.

I sold this one and wish I hadn't:



The famous blue flame fart card.

Shameless plug: I am setting up at the Ontario CA show this weekend with an entire section of printing freaks and flaws for sale. Some real doozies too.

[swarmee]

1958 Topps - [Base] #433 - Pancho Herrera
Courtesy of COMC.com

While the vast majority of fisheyes are non-recurring, this one on the left side of Pancho Herrera's 1958 card is a recurring print defect. And of course, this one has the other standard defect of the missing A in his last name.