Gone with the stain

[drcy]

I know that GWTS's chemical treatments to remove signatures from baseballs is easy to identify under blacklight. And, in fact, on their website they themselves detail this.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by drcy

I know that GWTS's chemical treatments to remove signatures from baseballs is easy to identify under blacklight. And, in fact, on their website they themselves detail this.

According to Dick, a black light does not detect his signature removal.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...1&postcount=50

[pokerplyr80]

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

According to Dick, a black light does not detect his signature removal.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...1&postcount=50

I actually just read through that whole thread. Take the dates off and I may have thought it was current. Complaints about altered cards, talks of an FBI investigation shaking up the hobby, one guy complaining about the mob mentality around here, a few incoherent posts, quite interesting. Not much has changed in the last 10 years.

Not quite sure what to make of Towle's claim that he consulted PSA and SGC and tested his work. I don't doubt this happened as he said it did but figured these guys just submitted cards hoping to get them through. I wouldn't expect a card doctor to say hey I cleaned these up and removed some creases. Let me know if you see any signs of the alterations. I wonder if they graded them afterwards.

[Leon]

According to a good friend of mine who used Towle's services, and knows how to spot fakes and alterations better than anyone I know (and I know a few people), he couldn't discern what Towle had done (or used) to get stains off. No detection possible he said. He had it done for card(s) in his own collection. I would bet many people use Towle's services for fraudulent purposes. I too would like to see his customer list.
And he wasn't too happy about not being allowed on our forum either. But what he does, imo, is contrary to good hobby practices. I don't dislike the gentleman whatsoever, never met him, but this just isn't the right place for him.

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth

According to Dick, a black light does not detect his signature removal.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showpos...1&postcount=50

[barrysloate]

I think just about everyone who participates in the baseball card hobby makes a kind of deal-with-the-devil: if you want to collect cards, you are going to have to put up with some level of fraud and deception. If you can live with it, power on and enjoy what you collect. If the threshold becomes more than you can bear, move on to another hobby. You can glue Popsicle sticks together with Elmer's glue and make lampshades. I hear that can be a great substitute for collecting.

[frankbmd]

I don’t get it. Why does anyone have a problem with disclosing client lists or even selling them?

If it works for Facebook, it works for me.

[steve B]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

I think just about everyone who participates in the baseball card hobby makes a kind of deal-with-the-devil: if you want to collect cards, you are going to have to put up with some level of fraud and deception. If you can live with it, power on and enjoy what you collect. If the threshold becomes more than you can bear, move on to another hobby. You can glue Popsicle sticks together with Elmer's glue and make lampshades. I hear that can be a great substitute for collecting.

But you have to eat a ton of popsicles... unless you cheat and buy the sticks wholesale... Damn. Just when I thought there was a "clean" hobby to enjoy.