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Old 02-05-2019, 08:27 AM
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I picked this up many years ago. It has printer marks on the edges which might indicate it is a proof of some kind.
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Old 02-18-2019, 04:55 PM
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4 1/2" x 5 3/4" Cigarette compact









Compact open....and it's empty....all 50 cigarettes went up in smoke






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I not aware of any premium inserts associated with this brand which would have been issued circa 1887-1888.
It's a pretty pack, however.
Perhaps some 19th Century expert on this forum may chime in here with some information.


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Old 05-03-2019, 05:20 PM
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Old 05-03-2019, 09:22 PM
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I not aware of any premium inserts associated with this brand which would have been issued circa 1887-1888.
It's a pretty pack, however.
Perhaps some 19th Century expert on this forum may chime in here with some information.


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Ted - non-sports cards would have been issued with Dukes Cameo(such as the F62s). Duke manufactured the brand for a while. I believe your pack dates to 1892, so definitely an early one.
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Ted - non-sports cards would have been issued with Dukes Cameo(such as the F62s). Duke manufactured the brand for a while. I believe your pack dates to 1892, so definitely an early one.

Hi Jon

Thanks for the info on the Duke's CameO pack.

I was thinking it might contain non-sports cards circa 1887 - 1889, since the pack has a July 20, 1886 Patent date on it. And, the slide inside this pack has a Sept 28, 1886
Patent date on it.

Can we arrive at any kind of conclusion(s) based on these dates ?


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Ted,

Duke's Cameo brand went from paper pack to slide and shell box in 1886 and would retain many of the dates you mention on the pack for decades. The date that really matters is the tax stamp over-print. Your tax stamp overprint appears to be either 1892 or 1893.

Another strong clue that quickly dates your pack to 1890s (or later) is the appearance of "ATC" or "American Tobacco Company". Most Duke, A&G, Kinney, Kimball, and Goodwin packs were updated upon the merger in early 1890 to reference ATC. Your pack is post merger. I have several pre-merger Cameo packs, here are a few from 1889. You can see several changes that occurred between June 1889 and August 1889. I've circled the overprints (June, August, & October of 1889) to better clue you into what you should be looking for on your pack.



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And a re-post from the April Pick-Up thread; this thread provides a better home for the pic. The cigar box is a beauty, dedicated to the Detroit Wolverines with numerous references to baseball and the Detroit Base Ball Club (DBBC) including the team picture. It serves as a storage box for some of my favorite Goodwin & SF Hess packs.

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Old 05-05-2019, 12:12 AM
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Looks great Joe!

Ted - I donít really have anything else to add that Joe didnít cover already. I was referring to the overprint on your box for dating. Itís still a great early one!
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Old 05-05-2019, 09:10 AM
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Ted,

Duke's Cameo brand went from paper pack to slide and shell box in 1886 and would retain many of the dates you mention on the pack for decades. The date that really matters is the tax stamp over-print. Your tax stamp overprint appears to be either 1892 or 1893.

Another strong clue that quickly dates your pack to 1890s (or later) is the appearance of "ATC" or "American Tobacco Company". Most Duke, A&G, Kinney, Kimball, and Goodwin packs were updated upon the merger in early 1890 to reference ATC. Your pack is post merger. I have several pre-merger Cameo packs, here are a few from 1889. You can see several changes that occurred between June 1889 and August 1889. I've circled the overprints (June, August, & October of 1889) to better clue you into what you should be looking for on your pack.




Joe and Jon

Thanks for all you info regarding this Tobacco brand. I'm glad I posted this pack. For you guys are amazing with your knowledge of this stuff.

Hope to see you both at the National this Summer.


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Default Old Mill Sign being sold by Probstein123 on ebay. Legit?

This Old Mill sign can't be legit, can it? It's on ebay by Probstein123 for $5,000. Here is the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ori...ty!95132!US!-1
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That was my first thought, too. For sure the backs of those 2 cards aren't from original cards, and the "open here" spaces are VERY fishy. If it's that obvious, how can a bigger consignment place (I'm assuming the sign is a consignment) with lots of feedback get away with that?
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Also note that the Old Mill advertisement is printed, but the text referencing baseball picture cards is hand-written. Too coincidental in my opinion.
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I think that the sign and "boxes" on either side are real just not the "base ball picture cards" verbiage..Ö.. I have either seen this frankenmonster before or something very similar.

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Default Sweet Caporal piece

I found this item in Bisbee, AZ. It is a door off a display case that was in the E.B. Wallace Smoke Shop and Pool Hall located on Main St. in Bisbee from 1910 to 1979.

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Hi Fellas!

scored this neat little Polar Bear ad card.

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Recently uncovered in a little hole in the wall antique store while vacationing with the wife.

Well weathered with character. I couldn't resist!


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Very sweet pick-up, Tony! Nice. Thanks for sharing your find. ---Brian Powell
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Recently uncovered in a little hole in the wall antique store while vacationing with the wife.

Well weathered with character. I couldn't resist!

Nice find Tony!
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Picked this up at an antique store near the Jersey Shore after eyeing it for three years. My fiancee bought it for me as an early wedding present after she told me I was never getting it (for the 1,000th time, lmao).

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it looks like you hung your giant Piedmont in the same place I had mine. Difference is my wife was looking to move it OUT - not in. You should keep yours (sign AND future missus) :-)

edited to ask: Any way you could share what was paid? I sort of track this kind of stuff. If not I understand......

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Tony- love that vintage Sweet Caporal sign, good find!
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it looks like you hung your giant Piedmont in the same place I had mine. Difference is my wife was looking to move it OUT - not in. You should keep yours (sign AND future missus) :-)



edited to ask: Any way you could share what was paid? I sort of track this kind of stuff. If not I understand......
I wanna say she paid around $350. I know she got the price down about $75-$100 from his original asking price. Yeah, she's a keeper. She tolerates all this "junk" of mine and lets me have the basement all to my collection. She even pretends to be interested in it sometimes, lol.

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Thanks for the kudos everyone. Another one just in!

It's a monster. Measures nearly 30" wide x 40" tall. Made of thick cardboard.

I believe it's circa (early 1930's)

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What a great piece Tony! Where did you come by it? I have never seen it before either.
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Hi Bob. Good to hear from you and thank you. It was an Ebay find. I'd not seen this one before now either. It sorta reminds me of the famous Dean brothers Beech-Nut display and is about the same size as that one.

Dean Bros sign below not mine, simply shown for reference

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Bought at the National for $20 from John Rumierz, this ad card for 1950 WWG "Big League Stars" set of International Leaguers.

Given its postcard size, I think it's the front window display insert for vending machines that held the V362 Big League Stars set and sold individual cards for 1c each, much like Exhibit Company machines. It's labeled as a joint production of Cramer Gum (East Boston USA) and World Wide Gum (Granby, Ontario CA), implying Big League Stars set distribution on both sides of the border.
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Picked up a random pack for old times sake...
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Pretty excited to add this to my cigarette pack collection. It's the first "soft" wrapper I've come across in person or had the opportunity to purchase (I have a scan of an old one, and this is the only other one I've ever seen). I have a 10-count period slide and shell Coupon box in my collection already, however there is some speculation that the cards may have been packaged in these soft packs which could explain in part why they are more flimsy than other cards.
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and interesting theory but I would doubt that the cards were ever in such a pack. Of course - I defer to your wider range of knowledge about cigarette packages and cards. What is there that suggests the relationship other than the lighter card stock?
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and interesting theory but I would doubt that the cards were ever in such a pack. Of course - I defer to your wider range of knowledge about cigarette packages and cards. What is there that suggests the relationship other than the lighter card stock?
I would have thought a more sturdy card might come in a flimsier pack? Maybe the -3 series?

Wonderful pack, btw, Jon

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Itís a good question guys. When I first got into collecting packs,
One theory was that the stiffer cardboard tore the packs more easily, so they used a thinner stock. Doubt weíll ever know. When I came across a 10-count slide and shell that dated to the 1910s, I felt pretty comfortable it was a proper pack, but I always wanted to add the soft pack, too, in case the theory ever holds true.
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Picked up this colorful Rodeo Meats cardboard sign recently. Although it doesnít make reference to the Rodeo cards of 1955-66, itís still neat. 21Ēx11Ē.
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Joe, thanks for posting your Rodeo hot dogs placard. Beautiful. I love the 1955-56 Rodeo Meats Kansas City A's cards, and devoted a chapter to the 1955 promotion in my book on immediate post-war regional-food issues. That's a diabolically tough set to complete, back in the day, and to this day. The whole KC area was very proud of their A's, and the hot dog company went all-out to give their fans a terrific trading card set promote them.

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Thanks, Brian. I thought it was pretty cool, as well.
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