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Old 08-11-2019, 07:29 AM
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Default 1951 Topps Red Backs - questions on card stock

I have two 1951 Topps Red Back Bob Feller cards with different card stock. One is creamy and the other is white card stock. I've seen this difference for other players as well while searching PicClick / ebay.

I couldn't find anything in my references or a search of Net 54, but I'm sure this is known to collectors.

Can anyone shed more light on the different card stock used in the 1951 Topps Red Back set?

Do all players in the set come in both varieties?

Were different card stocks used in the Blue Backs set as well?
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Old 08-11-2019, 08:14 AM
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I bet you can get the answer by traversing through this link:
https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball,...+-blue,ot,i100

Looks like a white back/gray back issue. I would guess that the white backs have a slight premium just by being more attractive.

#1 Yogi can be found with both backs. The rest is left as an exercise to the user.
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I'm pretty sure this is due to how the set was dispersed, but could be wrong.

You could purchase packs of singles and the panels came in some sort of "Hanger Set". The Feller on the right would have been the top part of a panel (see the small tabs on the bottom of the card) and the one on the left would have been pack-pulled.

I think this is the case for all of the cards in the Red Back set. (uncertain of Blue Backs, haven't put that one together)

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Old 08-11-2019, 01:37 PM
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I bet you can get the answer by traversing through this link:
https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball,...+-blue,ot,i100

Thanks for the link. That was a quicker exercise than I thought. I looked at the Red Backs listed on COMC, as well as other cards shown on PicClick / ebay.

I see that every card seems to have a white and a cream card stock version, with the possible exception of #36 Gus Zernial and #52 Tommy Holmes. Collectors of this set will know that there are two different versions of these two cards, (Gus Zernial Chicago bio or Philadelphia bio, Tommy Holmes Boston bio or Hartford bio).

It seems that you can only find one version of each with white card stock, and the other version of each with cream card stock. I was not able to find the opposite version for each of these two cards. I am hoping some other collectors out there can confirm this, or provide contrary examples. Perhaps this is already known to collectors of this set?
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:42 PM
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Default More info on The Topps Archives

You'll find a pretty good treatment on the 1951 Red and Blue Backs as well as the different cardboard, on The Topps Archives Blog:
http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/se...%20Red%20Backs
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You'll find a pretty good treatment on the 1951 Red and Blue Backs as well as the different cardboard, on The Topps Archives Blog:
http://toppsarchives.blogspot.com/se...%20Red%20Backs
Looks like this has been pretty well covered before. There's a lot of very good information at this link. Thanks for sharing!
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Old 08-12-2019, 11:33 AM
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I have collected all 5 of the Topps 1951 sets, including then 51 red backs in singles and panels. My singles sets all have darker backs with 3 exceptions, the variant Holmes as manager, Zernial traded to Phils and Hegan with the broken "r" in right handed...those are all white. My panel set, in what was called above a hanger pack, appear white. I assume opened it would have the Zernial Phil, Holmes manager and Hegan with the defective r.









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My '51 Topps MLAS commons don't seem to have a cream variant, but maybe I'll have to keep looking.
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The Roberts is not a common and the other 2 are Uncommon Commons

Those 3 fill a black hole in my 51 set
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:14 PM
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The Roberts is not a common and the other 2 are Uncommon Commons

Those 3 fill a black hole in my 51 set

Yeah, you're right, Al, Roberts is a HOF'er. They say that a black hole is a transport mechanism through space and time, so if we jump into one - and somehow survive - we could go back to the summer of 1951 and mosey into the Topps offices in Brooklyn and buy all the uncut sheets of MLAS our little minds could desire - for maybe twenty five bucks, or so. Where would the controls be located on a black hole, I wonder?
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Those brilliant white stock cards don't seem to tone or fade. The alternate, dingier stock gets grimier as the years pass. Whatever that brilliant white stock was made of is amazing.

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