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I can't imagine Whiffle being local, although they were in RI I think, so I'm in their local area. Maybe MSA didn't license the logos? Or didn't use them to keep consistent with older art they already had? Steve B |
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Another one has popped up on eBay, a 1978 bat and ball holder with Rusty Staub and Randy Jones. The only two unaccounted for now are Bobby Bonds and Al Hrabosky, which will undoubtedly show up on one of these bat and ball sleeves.
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Why does PSA slab the wiffle ball as 1976 but have them listed under 1978?
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That Al Hrabosky wiffle disc is almost certainly a 1977, not a 1978. 1977's are die cut and were inserted in the boxes, 1978's were on the box itself and were meant to be cut out. ETA, all wiffle discs are either from 1977 (die cut) or from 1978 (printed on the box or the bat and ball sleeve), but they all have a 1976 copyright which is why they are sometimes referred to mistakenly as being from 1976.
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Cliff - that is not correct...read my reply to the previous message
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On the die cut 80 disc set, it contains the following players listed with teams that they played for in 1977 but were on different teams in 1978: Dennis Eckersley Indians (traded to Red Sox before 1978 season), Bert Blyleven Rangers (traded to Pirates in December 1977), Larry Hisle Twins (signed as free agent with Brewers in November 1977), Dave Kingman Padres (he only played for them from June 1977 to early September 1977 before playing for the Angels and Yankees and then signing with Cubs in November 1977), Jon Matlack Mets (traded to Rangers in December 1977), Manny Sanguillen A's (he only played for A's during the 1977 season before going back to Pirates before 1978 season), Richie Zisk White Sox (he only played for the White Sox in 1977 before signing with Rangers in November 1977). In order for you to be correct that these came out in 1978, whoever printed these did a horrendous job of updating teams, or, they were printed in the summer of 1977 but not released until 1978.
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Hello...I am responsible for PSA changing their listings from 1976 and 1977 to 1978. I have been in touch with Wiffle (in Conn not RI) and the son of the inventor sent me product releases from those days which confirmed that the die cut discs (80) were inserted into boxes only in 1978 and the discs printed on the box sides (12 boxes with 5 discs per box) and on the so called "header sleeves" (14 sleeves of 2 players each for total of 28) were from 1979. SO the wiffles that PSA had labeled in the past 1976 and 1977 are really from 1978. I have sent the info to SCD and they will be correcting both in the next issue of the Std catalog. .
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I will try to post pics of the prod release documents that Wiffle sent me.. Have patience, I'm not quite sure how to do this yet.
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Steve B ,
The files are pdf and are 400Kb...this thread says posting pics have to be < 19Kb when I shrink that much you cannot read the letter so I'm not sure how to load. Send me you email and I will forward to you... |
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I will say that, from personal experience, I have zero doubt in my mind that the die cut discs were available in May of 1978. I know exactly where I was at the time and what I was doing when I got them.
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Hrabosky/Bonds
Picked up the Hrabosky/Bonds sleeve. There is a color variation too correct? Need to track that one down Thanks for all of the great info on this board.
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