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Old 01-04-2013, 10:32 AM
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Default Early Ted Williams Signature....???

Hey guys,

I recently picked up this Red Sox signed album page from 1947-48 season...The Ted Williams signature looks very nice and was wondering if you guys could help me identify if it is in fact, an early (47-48) Ted signature or was signed at a later time....Below are the photos, along with the comparison of the Ted Williams signatures from Ron's book...It has minor characteristics of nearly all of the examples Ron used....

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Old 01-04-2013, 10:40 AM
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I would say not authentic.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:44 AM
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Looks like a rubber stamp on an album page which is weird, can you post a better picture of the Williams from a scanner? Sometimes kids would give the entire album to a player or clubhouse attendant and they would take it into the clubhouse and get the signatures then bring it back so someone could have borrowed Ted's stamp I guess.
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:50 AM
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Looks like a rubber stamp on an album page which is weird, can you post a better picture of the Williams from a scanner? Sometimes kids would give the entire album to a player or clubhouse attendant and they would take it into the clubhouse and get the signatures then bring it back so someone could have borrowed Ted's stamp I guess.
I initially thought a stamp too, but it looks like a fountain pen...
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Old 01-04-2013, 10:59 AM
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Default better photo.....

a better photo of the signature up close...
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Old 01-04-2013, 11:19 AM
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Default Teddy ballgame

I had this one on watch on ebay but passed on it. The fact that all other sigs were in the same ink and the Williams looked to be stamped...
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:17 PM
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I would also concur that it looks like a stamp. The letter size related to others throws me a off a little as well.
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Old 01-04-2013, 12:21 PM
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Stinson is the man for early Teddy autographs. Looks like a stamp to me but what do I know. I'm sure Jim will chime in...
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Here are two early signatures on the same item (photo and folder), photo dated 1946 on the back.
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Here is an early photo from Hunt Auction

http://www.huntauctions.com/LIVE/ima...=505&lot_qual=

I am still saying no. The other autograph or stamp is just to neat.

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The Williams appears to have multiple breaks in the ink, a sign of a rubber stamp.
If you could look at it under a loop you can tell for sure.
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Old 01-04-2013, 02:08 PM
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Thanks guys...still a nice item, but I emailed the seller And he has agreed to refund my purchase. He is a power seller with over 2400 positive feedback and a 100% rating...so I'd hope it won't be relisted without the stamp details.

Once again, this showcases the class and knowledge that the contributors to the forum offer.

Thanks again guys!!
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Anyone know of any value for this sheet with the stamp? He's offered it to me at a reduced price of $35? It does have Cronin which is a plus...
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If the other autographs are genuine, $35 sounds like a decent price.
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