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Old 07-02-2017, 11:54 AM
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Default 1990 Frank Thomas No Name On Front RC

I normally post on the Autograph thread on Net 54, but I also collect baseball cards ( I have a few hundred thousand cards going back to Old Judge and Topps complete sets to 1959 and many graded and ungraded RCs) but I admit my knowledge is average at best about trends in card prices .
This is why I am coming here to see if someone can offer their opinion about the 1990 Frank Thomas no name on front RC. I have this card ( PSA 7.5 )which I purchased before his HoF induction and I have been watching its price increase over time. I know nothing is a guarantee BUT can anyone give an opinion about this card in general and its value ceiling ?
Is it on a bubble that could burst or do people believe it will continue to rise?
I realize that a "sudden " find of these would dramatically affect the value of this card but considering that after 27 years there hasn't been a find I would be content assuming that all of these cards have been found, but possibly not graded.

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Old 07-02-2017, 01:44 PM
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As I don't see him in the top tier of popular all time greats, I would not think at this point there is that much upside relative to the market in general, but that's just an off the cuff opinion.
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Old 07-02-2017, 09:50 PM
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All I can say is the card has been a celebrated error/variation for many years-- over 20--, so it's not a recent flash in the pan. I'm sure it will be a popular rarity for years to come. There are longtime desirable 1980s rare variations of common players, so that he is 'only a second tier' HOFer isn't that important. The T206 Sherry Magee error is probably the most desirable error card of all time and obviously Macgee isn't a HOFer . . . It also may be that there was so much over produced stuff in the late 1980s/early 1990s that make the Thomas NNOF rarity so special.

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Old 07-03-2017, 08:51 AM
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I started collecting in that era and have always wanted one. If I had to guess I'd say there is still upside potential. Thomas and griffey were the two top players for quite a while, even if he won't be remembered as an all time great. I'm a buyer if you decide to sell yours.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:15 AM
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All I can say is the card has been a celebrated error/variation for many years-- over 20--, so it's not a recent flash in the pan. I'm sure it will be a popular rarity for years to come. There are longtime desirable 1980s rare variations of common players, so that he is 'only a second tier' HOFer isn't that important. The T206 Sherry Magee error is probably the most desirable error card of all time and obviously Macgee isn't a HOFer . . . It also may be that there was so much over produced stuff in the late 1980s/early 1990s that make the Thomas NNOF rarity so special.
+1, although with 521 HR's, lifetime average over .300, and no steroid use, I would certainly rank him in the upper middle echelon of HOF'ers. I bought that card at the right time in the early '90's and believe it is a reasonably good candidate for consistent appreciation in value. When he was in his 20's, Bill James credited him with having a shot at becoming one of the 3-4 best hitters of all time, based on the combination of tremendous power to all fields, high average, and enormous walk totals (.419 OBP for his career, one of the very highest ever for a right-handed hitter). He went through a nasty divorce in the midst of those years, however, which led to two off years, and in his 30's downslide, the reflexes were beginning to go, and he had to cheat on the middle-in fastball, leaving him vulnerable to the outside pitch he used to hit with such great power to RCF. Through this style, he succeeded in maintaining the HR totals for quite awhile, but causing the batting average to decrease. I would certainly hang on to a 7.5 NrMt+.

May your collecting be joyful,

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Larry,

Nice analysis. Are you a baseball scout on the side? . I tend to agree with Larry here. He is generally spot on.....nice card to keep.

Good luck either way.

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Unlike Magie/Magee - I don't consider this an 'error' card. It's a print defect. A rare variation, but not an error. Found this picture online. Someone correctly pieced together other cards with print defects and their placement on the sheet. Lots of fakes out there - be careful.
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Larry,

Nice analysis. Are you a baseball scout on the side? . I tend to agree with Larry here. He is generally spot on.....nice card to keep.

Good luck either way.

Z
Thanks so much--I truly appreciate the compliment. I have lived and breathed baseball since I was eleven years old in the early '60's, playing fast pitch hardball in both Dearborn and Detroit summer leagues through my teens with a number of teammates that went on to play in college; high school ball; and over-30 fast pitch hardball in my early to mid-forties in the '90's (a pretty decent league that had a nice mix of good high school players, former college players, and even three former pros. As I tell my wife (who hates baseball, by the way), it's hard to tell where baseball leaves off and I begin, and vice versa!

Best wishes to all,

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Just noticed the other day that PSA's price guide for the NNOF went from $40,000 for the gem mint 10 up to $50,000.

Same day my 85 McGwire gem mint 10 went from $700 to $750 lol.


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PSA 7.5 just went for $5100 in a PWCC auction--wasn't your copy, was it?

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No it was not mine. Mine is still in my collection and in my safe.
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I hope you guys are right about these prices because the one above set me back $350, and at the time I bought it thought it was a ridiculous price

The second one was only $2.50

Is anyone here working on a full set of the cards shown in the diagram above. I am not but ended up with one of them by accident
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I hope you guys are right about these prices because the one above set me back $350, and at the time I bought it thought it was a ridiculous price

The second one was only $2.50

Is anyone here working on a full set of the cards shown in the diagram above. I am not but ended up with one of them by accident
Based on the price the 7.5 received, I'd say your $350 was a great investment, Al.

I assume the $5,100 is a new record for this card?
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