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Old 12-09-2002, 07:55 AM
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Posted By: runscott

I know this will be controversial, but I am so tired of having absolutely every seller of forgeries say "God Bless" in their rebuttal. Following is the latest email from the t206 fake Cobb red portrait seller - several of us were "blessed" with this rebuttal, which should be inserted verbatim in the "How to Rebutt Accusations of Selling Forgeries" manual. I think if I ever meet an actual disabled semi-literate antique dealer from Ohio or Kentucky, I will wet my pants and run screaming from the room.

"God Bless" is very effective and also believable when you hear it in Church, or from a friend or loved one - I even get a slight warm fuzzy when I hear it from Dubya. But somehow the voice of the Speculator just isn't working for me.

The note below was Spec's response to "Ask the Seller" questions sent by myself and several other board members informing him (or her) that the Cobb was a fake. I responded "appropriately", and the message title you see above was his complete, concise response - I guess I better get ready!

Speculator <speculator@valink.com> wrote:

I am not trying to cheat anyone. I sell cards on occasion for a local card dealer on commision. He bought the card under pretents that it was real. It was owned by a history teacher at the local high school since he was a boy. The teacher sold it to a student that was friends with the guy that the card dealer. He in turn asked me to sell it, he thought it was legit. He said to pull it off and we will send it off for grading. I don't know baseball, I know racing.

Not to all of you but, the ones who sent nasty emails HOW DARE YOU JUDGE ME! I could be a half cocked phyco that traces your URL to you IP server and snipe you out as you leave home. Fortunatly for you I am a God fearing, JESUS loving Christian. May the judgement you past on me be on your head. I was caught up in a mess I had no malicious thought about. To the one s who gave me the friendly FYIs, bless you. Thanks, I had no clue. My feedback reflects my honesty! I would never intentionaly mislead anyone. I am disabled and this is my income. Plus I do unto others as I would have done to me. May the Lord bless you all! Regards, Tracy

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Old 12-09-2002, 08:46 AM
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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

...and I was more than happy to tell him what I thought. I don't really appreciate his "bless you's" either. It's often an odd ritual, actually...

Why does someone like him always have the need to draw attention to someone's sneeze, by saying "bless you"? It's a spontaneous expulsion of air...why does a sneeze require a blessing? Nobody says it when I cough, fart, hiccup or burp... But, for some reason the sneeze requires holiness to settle upon me.

As does, apparently, spectator's questionable vintage card transaction...

Maybe "spectator" can explain it...or perhaps I too have to wait until I'm standing before The Boss. (And, I ain't talkin about Bruce Springsteen!)

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Old 12-09-2002, 10:42 AM
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I always say "bless you" when I hear someone sneeze. Your heart stops when you sneeze and the tradition is to say "bless you" in that circumstance. Most of the rest of this guys "cockamamey" (sp?) story is just that....regards all

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Old 12-09-2002, 10:52 AM
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Posted By: Brian Weisner


Hi Leon
Nice to see someone else use the word cockamamie (correct spelling, I think). We need to keep a few of these old words around for awhile. later brian

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Old 12-09-2002, 11:03 AM
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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

with Clint Eastwood. He says exactly the same thing about the word cockamamie. Kinda funny.

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Old 12-09-2002, 11:10 AM
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Hi Dan
I had that movie on in the background last week while I was on the computer, I must have stored it for use later. I guess it's like Subliminal(sp) advertising, I didn't even realize where the line came from. Thanks Dan, I've got to watch what I have on in the background, so I don't say anything too crazy. later brian

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Old 12-09-2002, 11:17 AM
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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

I've got Harry Potter in the background right now while I'm working on my laptop...

...probably why I keep wanting to say "Wingardium Leviosa"!

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Old 12-09-2002, 11:24 AM
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Posted By: Brian Weisner


Hi Dan
I know what you mean I had Harry Potter on all last week. I found myself wanting to play "Wizards Chess" with anyone who beat me in an auction. Although I was worried about "Troll Boggies" getting on my cards.
I've got Fast and Furious on now so my typing speed should improve, but my spelling might get worse. later brian

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Old 12-09-2002, 11:48 AM
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Posted By: John(z28jd)

I have a Larry Corcoran card as my background,i dont know it helps me do something but i always ask him before i buy any cards...He does want more cards of himself tho,so if anyone wants to help me help him,please do....and i know some people are gonna ask,dont you have enough of them already and the answer is no

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Old 12-09-2002, 11:50 AM
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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

It was as fun/delightful, very attention-grabbing start to finish, just like the Sorcerer's Stone.

They are doing a terrific job with the Potter movies.

As a die-hard Trek fan, I'm really looking forward to Nemesis this month...

...but NOTHING is rivaling my enjoyment of the Lord of the Rings (#2) about to come out. I can't stand the wait...

This has been a terrific year for movies...

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Old 12-09-2002, 12:10 PM
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Posted By: jay behrens

The origins of saying 'Bless you' when someone sneezes can be traced back to the Dark Ages when it was believed that the act sneezing and your open mouth allowed demons to enter your body, thus, someone saying "Bless you" or "getzuntheit"(sp) in response to someone sneezing.

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Old 12-09-2002, 12:15 PM
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Old 12-09-2002, 01:05 PM
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Posted By: Dan Mathewson

...well, not being a religious person, I'll have to concede to the religious rendition of the sneeze ritual.

However, the German term, gesundheit, only means "good health" and has no religious connotation that I am aware of. They don't bless their sneezes or their burps (however, a burp in Germany is a welcome gesture and is offered as praise to the cook).

Two Germans in my household; I was fluent through college and lived Wiesbaden & Rudesheim for a short while...can you tell? LOL...

To make this somewhat vintage card related, I don't sneeze, fart, burp or even eat/drink around any of my cards, especially if I haven't had them slabbed yet. And, I don't handle them whatsoever if I have the hiccups.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

Reminds me of a German joke about Hitler. You all know "Heil Hitler" means "hail to Hitler", and they all said it, meeting in the street, etc. (except for those in very small towns who continued to say "Gruess Gott" (Greet God) when they met.)

Well, "Heil" also means "to heal."

Man: "Heil Hitler!"
2nd man: "Heil Du ihn." (YOU heal him.)

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Posted By: jay behrens

but do you handle them after you have eatten Cheeto's?

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Posted By: B C Daniels

Everyone lies! and Tracy honey, the only thing wrong with humility is you casn't be proud of it!!!

jam on it!

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Posted By: Ben

I make a point to fart on my cards whenever the opportunity presents itself (/sarcasm)

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I have heard the same.

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