A question for Mrs. Sherlock

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

I am somewhat familiar with the Mrs. Sherlock's bread pins with the red borders, found in the SCD catalogue, but have not seen one of these before--I just won and received it:



The SCD catalogue says the red borders were one of several sets put out by "the Toldeo bakery", but this one appears to have come from Rochester NY, at least the teeny tiny print near the rim seems to say so. Can anyone provide some info--it is actually smaller in circumference than a dime.

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Posted By: jay wolt

TODD - I have seen that style before, but I have no info on scarcity or
production. For comparison's sake here is a red Mrs Sherlock of Cobb I
had awhile ago...jay

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Posted By: Anonymous

Just because the tiny print says Rochester, it doesn't necessarily mean it was distributed there. It could have been made anywhere and distributed somewhere else. I tend to not always go by what it says is a manufacturing location.

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Posted By: fkw

Your Ed Konetchy pin is a 1922 PD5 Toledo Mud Hens pin. The 1922 set is numbered on the left. I have a few of the 1920 PD4 pins but none of the 1922 ones.

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Posted By: Todd Schultz

I was just ready to post that I found it in the back of the SCD book--what threw me is that it is a minor league set of Toledo players, and Konetchy was a major leaguer until 1922, so I looked in the wrong spot. Nice catch Frank.

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Posted By: fkw

The SCD calls it a PB5 but its really a PD5. "PD" for Bakery issue pin.

Just looked it up, its on page 1754 (2007 SCD) but no pictures.

IMO the 1922 pins like yours are scarcer than the similar 1920 pins.

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Posted By: andy

...a great set of Toledo Mud Hens

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Posted By: Mike

Would someone who is knowledgeable about this set please contact me. I have some questions.

mike

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Posted By: Patrick McMenemy

Here is the Roger Bresnahan Mrs. Sherlock pin I own. My guess it must be from the 1920 set.



Patrick

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

Mrs. Sherlocks Pin Sets as I understand them..........

PB5-1.....1920 Black Printing Only.....like the UNNUMBERED Bresnahan pictured in this thread. Normal 7/8" buttons.....19 unnumbered pins with Bresnahan.

PB5-2.....1922 Brown Printing Only and numbered.....like the NUMBERED Bresnahan pictured in this thread. Slightly smaller than the 7/8" buttons.....21 numbered pins with Bresnahan.

1924 Red Major League Pins....10 pins with Cobb, Ruth, Wagner, Johnson and more.

PB5-3....1933 Black & Red Printing.....18 pins with no big names.....I also have a pin with 'You tell 'em Mrs. Sherlock, you're well BRED' from the set.

And there's the Kolb's pins that're kinda like the Mrs. Sherlocks.....32 in the set there with Chief Bender.

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Posted By: fkw

Hi Tom, is there a updated American Card Catalog numbering system for these and other pins?

Your numbers make more sense, but the ACC lists some of these pins (others are not listed) and they use slightly different numbers.

Your "PB" makes more sense, but the ACC has them as "PD" (sort of like the "D" for bakery card issues)

The ACC I have has PD3 as Sherlocks and Kalbs grouped together.

Is there an updated Pins Catalog or List that I dont know about?

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Posted By: Tom Boblitt

don't exactly know where I got those numbers......they may have been from Sports Collector's Bible or somewhere else....that's what I've always used for them as I'm about 1-2 pins away from all 5 of those sets (w/Kolbs).