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Also, I'm looking for some more info on Coupon Cigarettes. I'm pretty sure they were manufactured by the American Tobacco Company but I have some questions. ATC broke apart in 1911 forming several different companies with 4 major players: Ligget & Myers Tobacco Co., P. Lorillard Co., R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co., and a much reduced American Tobacco Co. If T213's were distributed between 1910-1919, who would have had control of Coupon Cigarettes after the 1911 break-up? I'm pretty sure that the W.R. Irby branch of Ligget & Myers was the only one located in New Orleans so would they have been the ones producing Coupon Cigarettes? I've tried searching the web for more info on Coupon but I just keep getting hits about cigarette coupons. I was just hoping someone here might have a definitive answer. Last edited by ZachS; 05-29-2014 at 09:35 AM. |
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These are all from the Goodwin Auctions and the same find... I think it was someone close to their production that collected them..
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Great looking site, Zach.
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I found the auction where these were listed. They are listing these as T216's based on the paper stock... but you're also saying that these blank backed cards were from a find that also contained regular Kotton back T216's correct?
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T213's As stated before, these White-Bordered cards (cousins to the T206's) were all produced in New York City at the AMERICAN LITHOGRAPHIC Co. Then shipped to the COUPON cigarette Factory in New Orleans to be packaged with COUPON cigarettes. It is my belief that the thin cardboard 1910 "COUPON" cards (T213-1) were never inserted in COUPON cigarette packs. Individual cards from this 68-card set were included in Cigarette cartons containing 100's of cigarettes of this brand. The T213-2 and T213-3 cards were inserted into COUPON cigarette packs. ........... T215's The T215 cards were produced in New York City at the AMERICAN LITHOGRAPHIC Co. Then shipped to the Lorillard plant (Factory #10) in Jersey City (NJ), and inserted in the Red Cross tobacco products. A large find of Red Cross cards occurred some years back in the Louisiana area. T216 These cards were produced by the printing firm in the Philadelphia area that produced the various Caramel sets. These cards were then shipped to the Factory in New Orleans which produced the People's Tobacco Co. brands (KOTTON, MINO, VIRGINIA EXTRA). Then the T216 cards were packaged with their respective Cigarette brand. Hey guys Please realize that Tobacco or Candy Factory's (circa 1908-1919) had machinery and low-paid employees to strictly produce Cigarettes, or Caramel confections. These Factory's did NOT have the artists, technicians, machinery, or facilities to print Lithographic picture cards. TED Z . Last edited by tedzan; 05-30-2014 at 12:03 AM. |
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Ted - I knew you'd end up here sooner or later. Thanks for info in your post. I think you might be misunderstanding what I'm asking though. I'm asking about Coupon Cigarettes... not T213 cards. I'm trying to find out more information about who made the cigarettes and where.
I understand that all of the cards themselves were printed off-site in other states. I'm trying to tie the cards in with the products in which they were distributed from the LA area. Last edited by ZachS; 05-29-2014 at 12:58 PM. |
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Zach I know that you know where these cards where printed. I posted that info for those who think that the cards were printed at the Tobacco Factory's. Regarding your question......the COUPON tobacco brand was assigned to Liggett & Myers (L & M) after ATC's divestiture in 1911. And, I am quite sure that there was an L & M plant in New Orleans. TED Z |
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W.R. Irby had a branch of Liggett & Myers in New Orleans on Magazine St. I just wasn't completely sure that they were the ones manufacturing Coupon cigarettes. This building is actually still in use by a law firm: |
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