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Old 12-08-2015, 07:54 AM
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Default Ranking of t206 SLers

There have been a number of threads over the years on "which Southern Leaguer is toughest" etc. but I wonder if there is a definitive recent post or link on what exactly the pop reports, or other measures, show to be the approximate order of scarcity for these cards, broken down into Old Mill and any other backs....
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Old 12-08-2015, 12:24 PM
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Nothing better to do, so I just did a PSA population count.

Before doing so, my only theory with SL difficulty was the Texas Lg. is the easiest. The numbers support that. Although some variation, others are relatively equal.

Stark, Dolly – San Antonio – Texas – 267
Westlake, James – Danville – Va. Lg. – 267
White, Foley – Houston – Texas – 258
Miller, Molly – Dallas – Texas – 252
Bastian, Jack – San Antonio – Texas – 249
Thebo, Tony – Waco – Texas – 247
Seitz, Charles – Norfolk – Va. Lg. – 246
Orth, Al – Lynchburg – Va. Lg. – 244
Hart, Jimmy – Montgomery – So. Assoc. – 241
King, Frank – Danville – Va. Lg. – 239
Rockenfeld, Ike – Montgomery – So. Assoc. – 233
Fritz, Charlie – New Orleans – So. Assoc. – 231
Lentz, Harry – Little Rock – So. Assoc. – 226
Smith, Carlos – Shreveport – Texas – 225
Revelle, Dutch – Richmond – Va. Lg. – 222
Bernhard, Bill – Nashville – So. Assoc. – 221
Carey, Scoops – Memphis – So. Assoc. – 217
McCauley, Pat – Portsmouth – Va. Lg. – 216
Breitenstein, Ted – New Orleans – So. Assoc. – 215
Shaughnessy, Shag – Roanoke – Va. Lg. – 215
Howard, Ernie – Savannah – SAL – 214
Paige, George – Charleston – SAL – 212
Reagan, Ed – New Orleans – So. Assoc. – 211
Lafitte, James – Macon – SAL – 210
Hart, Bill – Little Rock – So. Assoc. – 209
Guiheen, Tom – Portsmouth – Va. Lg. – 208
Molesworth, Carlton – Birmingham – So. Assoc. – 207
Bay, Harry – Nashville – So. Assoc. – 206
Manion, George – Columbia – SAL – 205
Greminger, Ed – Montgomery – So. Assoc. – 204
Foster, Ed – Charleston – SAL – 202
Lipe, Perry – Richmond – Va. Lg. – 202
Otey, William – Norfolk – Va. Lg. – 202
Ellam, Roy – Nashville – So. Assoc. – 201
Hickman, Gordon – Mobile – So. Assoc. – 201
Thornton, Woodie – Mobile – So. Assoc. – 199
Perdue, Hub – Nashville – So. Assoc. – 198
Smith, Sid – Atlanta – So. Assoc. – 197
Cranston, Bill – Memphis – So. Assoc. – 196
Violat, Juan – Jacksonville – SAL – 196
Jordan, Dutch – Atlanta – So. Assoc. – 195
Hooker, Bock – Lynchburg – Va. Lg. – 194
Persons, Arch – Montgomery – So. Assoc. – 194
Helm, J. Ross – Columbus – SAL – 192
Ryan, Ray – Roanoke – Va. Lg. – 192
Coles, Cad – Augusta – SAL – 187
Kiernan, J.F. – Columbia – SAL – 185
Mullaney, Dom – Jacksonville – SAL – 182

Average 215.25
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Old 12-08-2015, 01:06 PM
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That's great. Now you just need to do the Old Mill breakdown!

Then add the SGC numbers!
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:13 PM
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HAHA, Not that bored to do SGC !!!!!!!!!!!

My guess on back break down is: 60 Piedmont : 40 OMSL

If you just look at above vs. below average, you would get this break down in League difficulty:

Easiest to toughest:

Texas Lg. -- 0 of 6 below average (0.00 %)
Virginia Lg. -- 6 of 12 below average (50 %)
Southern Assoc. -- 14 of 20 below average (70 %)
So. Atlantic Lg. -- 10 of 10 below average (100 %)

Virginia Lg. has the most deviation. There are some Va. Lgers that are tough (Ryan, Hooker, Otey). The SAL is not as tough as the numbers indicate, imo ,but there are some tougher ones.
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Old 12-08-2015, 03:23 PM
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Yes, the somewhat lower numbers for OMs reflected in somewhat higher prices. Right now on average an OM PSA 5 is getting about 400 (or more) while the same Piedmont might get 320...which seems fair.... The high-grade pop reports don't necessarily reflect the overall numbers. For one example, see Westlake....
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