VCP Not Tracking SGC T206 Prices Anymore

[boneheadandrube]

I've been using VCP for a few years now and have recently started to notice that a large amount of sold T206's graded by SGC are not being documented on the service. I noticed it early this year when I was trying to find a card I had missed at auction on ebay. Since then I have noticed it on many cards I have consigned and a large amount of cards that were recently on Probstein123 (over 300). In the first email I sent to them about it they asked for examples of items that were missed so that they could look into it and I obliged. Weeks go by, and a couple hundred SGC T206's not listed so in the second email I asked if there was any follow up on the issue and still have not been given a response.

The problem seems to be centered around Probstein123 and some PWCC sales which is most of the monthly activity for these cards. I primarily collect SGC T206 and its really annoying (at best) that there isn't an honest account for past sales. I know the world revolves around PSA for prices but they have their own in house version of the software now and its free, making VCP a little obsolete for some customers. You would think that tracking an extremely active commodity set like T206 would be important to a service like this, but it seems to be lacking the SGC half of the equation these days.

If you care about this please check for some recent SGC T206 sales and see how many are missing for yourself, hopefully I am just missing something? If you feel that this is a problem please also let them know so that hopefully it can be corrected. Thanks,
Greg B.

[Rhotchkiss]

Greg, VCP has missed many cards I have bought - SGC, PSA, on eBay and from AHs. I have emailed them a few times and they pay lip service about caring but they don’t. I agree they have many more PSA comps than SGC comps for t206s, but I don’t think that is purposeful - I think they run an algorithm and that algorithm is outdated and currently inadequate, bc , again, VCP misses all sorts of stuff (including mislabeling backs and rare back sales comps). It’s still better than most things but it certainly has its issues and those issues are not getting better.

Ryan Hotchkiss

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Greg, VCP has missed many cards I have bought - SGC, PSA, on eBay and from AHs. I have emailed them a few times and they pay lip service about caring but they don’t. I agree they have many more PSA comps than SGC comps for t206s, but I don’t think that is purposeful - I think they run an algorithm and that algorithm is outdated and currently inadequate, bc , again, VCP misses all sorts of stuff (including mislabeling backs and rare back sales comps). It’s still better than most things but it certainly has its issues and those issues are not getting better.

Ryan Hotchkiss

Thanks for the response, the problem hasn't always been there though. There are certain sellers not getting referenced when at one time they were? Its not just a few random cards here and there, its 100% of their sales.

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by boneheadandrube

Thanks for the response, the problem hasn't always been there though. There are certain sellers not getting referenced when at one time they were? Its not just a few random cards here and there, its 100% of their sales.

Maybe they are finally realizing that SGC graded cards are no fair value compared to PSA graded....Just wondering?

[Johnny630]

Has anyone received the new flip on their recent graded SGC cards ?

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Rhotchkiss

Greg, VCP has missed many cards I have bought - SGC, PSA, on eBay and from AHs. I have emailed them a few times and they pay lip service about caring but they don’t. I agree they have many more PSA comps than SGC comps for t206s, but I don’t think that is purposeful - I think they run an algorithm and that algorithm is outdated and currently inadequate, bc , again, VCP misses all sorts of stuff (including mislabeling backs and rare back sales comps). It’s still better than most things but it certainly has its issues and those issues are not getting better.

Ryan Hotchkiss

Interesting you saying this Ryan, because they haven't missed cards I've bought.. So wonder whats going on?

[midmo]

It's missed many cards I've bought (PSA & SGC) over the past few years. I email them about some of them, but it gets tedious so I've kind of given up.

[swarmee]

You can message them on this board. They just asked a question on the modern board about which sets from 2000-now to add to their database.

Originally Posted by CMIZ5290

Maybe they are finally realizing that SGC graded cards are no fair value compared to PSA graded....Just wondering?

No offense but that’s ridiculous considering the purpose of the site is to provide a historical record of sales. Congrats on the usual dig though

[BobbyVCP]

We have been looking into the reason for missing these auctions and can not come up with anything to pin point the reason. As you know for the past several weeks eBay link system to past auctions is out of whack and not working. We have no way of going back in time and trying to get these missed auctions. We are trying to make it better moving forward. So we just started a new ebay tracking system of what we call the super sellers making Prob and PWCC along with numerous others in this section part of it. This just targets all their listings to capture what they are listing so we are hoping to resolve the issue. We are always updating and changing because of eBay always changing without notice. So we are sorry but we are always trying our best to grab as much as humanly possible. When we do miss by giving us url's or ebay ID's at least gives us some clues as to why we did miss it and we can make some adjustments.

Thank you

[CMIZ5290]

Originally Posted by Gobucsmagic74

No offense but that’s ridiculous considering the purpose of the site is to provide a historical record of sales. Congrats on the usual dig though

delete, not worth the aggravation....

[boneheadandrube]

Originally Posted by BobbyVCP

We have been looking into the reason for missing these auctions and can not come up with anything to pin point the reason. As you know for the past several weeks eBay link system to past auctions is out of whack and not working. We have no way of going back in time and trying to get these missed auctions. We are trying to make it better moving forward. So we just started a new ebay tracking system of what we call the super sellers making Prob and PWCC along with numerous others in this section part of it. This just targets all their listings to capture what they are listing so we are hoping to resolve the issue. We are always updating and changing because of eBay always changing without notice. So we are sorry but we are always trying our best to grab as much as humanly possible. When we do miss by giving us url's or ebay ID's at least gives us some clues as to why we did miss it and we can make some adjustments.

Thank you

Thank you for Responding Bobby.
GB