Game Used Uniforms

[Klrdds]

If this is on the wrong page please move it to its proper location .
My question is do Turn Back the Clock game worn jerseys/uniforms hold their value or appreciate in value as well as the normal regular season ( non-special issue ) game worn jerseys/uniforms ?
I am speaking about any player , but primarily your everyday average player , in a routine game where nothing special occurred and he had an average game compared to the superstar future HoFer .

[Jim65]

Modern common players don't really hold value.

I love special 1 game jerseys but I always wait to buy them. For example, the 2016 Mets wore 1986 Throwback jerseys to honor the 30th Anniversary of the 86 Champs. Last year they were selling for $200 + Last week I picked up this Kevin Long for $100 shipped.

[Dave Grob]

Interesting question on value. I would offer that unless the common player later becomes uncommon, then there is probably little chance in any real appreciation. Part of this is due to the fact that collectors have so many more options when it comes to the availability of product and that this product is largely controlled at an organizational level (club or teaming agreement with a retailer). For me, I see the modern game used jersey market as becoming flooded, just like the card market in the 1980s. Many people bought cards based on what they saw in the appreciation in value against the notion, that if you bought it and held onto it long enough, they would become the “1952 Mantle” down the line.

For modern and current uniforms, I always ask people to remember when considering value:

1. These uniforms will never be in short supply as uniforms are no longer a consumable business expense for the club, but something they are buying with the plan to market and re-sell. This is not lost on players as well. I am not just talking about the raw number of uniforms a player has, but all of the different styles that a team looks to trot out in any given year, homes, roads, special event, alternates, etc..

2. The modern player is one whose legacy is far from secure… they remain a tweet or cell phone pic away from going from hero to zero in a matter of minutes.

Dave Grob

[Klrdds]

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

For me, I see the modern game used jersey market as becoming flooded, just like the card market in the 1980s.

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Dave Grob

Dave
Just curious what year(s) do you consider the flooding of the game worn jersey market to have begun or did it start slowly team by team and player by player ?
I know Pete Rose and Gaylord Perry changed jerseys almost every inning as they were nearing their milestone career marks but that was the exception at the time.

[Dave Grob]

This really becomes an issue or problem in earnest by the early mid 1980s. Teams clearly had realization of this as did those who were looking for fake uniforms. It was not has hard as people think to have obtained blank major league quality garments well before the advent of Rawlings, and later Russell becoming the Official Supplier of Uniforms to Major League Baseball… Case in point, this ad from a 1984 Phillies Scorecard Magazine.

This was also around the same time that players began looking to control and profit from their own game worn/used items. In some other cases, (as a function of team), this actually extends back into the 1970s….An example here are the Cincinnati Reds uniforms sold by Koch’s Sporting Goods.

Dave Grob

[icollectDCsports]

If you purchase a jersey of a modern player, unless the player is or turns out to be a real standout, I wouldn't expect much appreciation in value (assuming purchased at market value to begin with). In fact, I think many of the everyday-player GU jerseys bought in team stores today will likely depreciate in value as they are more valuable at the moment, when a given player is of current interest, than they will be in the future when interest turns to the new players of the day.

I think this applies to turn back the clock jerseys as well. There may be a limited number of TBTC style jerseys that are exceptions -- such as (I would think) the Astros rainbow jerseys, which seem to be pretty desirable.

[Jim65]

Originally Posted by Dave Grob

This really becomes an issue or problem in earnest by the early mid 1980s. Teams clearly had realization of this as did those who were looking for fake uniforms. It was not has hard as people think to have obtained blank major league quality garments well before the advent of Rawlings, and later Russell becoming the Official Supplier of Uniforms to Major League Baseball… Case in point, this ad from a 1984 Phillies Scorecard Magazine.

This was also around the same time that players began looking to control and profit from their own game worn/used items. In some other cases, (as a function of team), this actually extends back into the 1970s….An example here are the Cincinnati Reds uniforms sold by Koch’s Sporting Goods.

Dave Grob

Dave, do you know if these were tagged the same as team issued jerseys, with strip tags, set tags, etc?

[Dave Grob]

I don’t believe these retail Phillies shirts contained names in the collar or strip tags in the tail for year and set. Over the years, I have seen a number of Phillies jerseys from this time frame (Rose, Schmidt, Carlton) that have had these facets added post manufacture.

Dave Grob