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Most passengers are retired like we are and even older age wise ( one guy is 102).
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Liking the 63 offset error that was posted above.

As likely Ben's competition for offset errors (lol) I have several hundred and the extreme ones are always my favorites.

Here is a neat one I just picked up last week that is a double exposed George Burke Stamp. The first I have run across of these...
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1968 Topps - [Base] #179 - Bill Stoneman
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Red burlap at the bottom of this Stoneman; multiple copies on COMC this way, so pretty common.
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It looks like PacMan ate part of the ball. I wonder how this happened.
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1968 Topps - [Base] #179 - Bill Stoneman
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Red burlap at the bottom of this Stoneman; multiple copies on COMC this way, so pretty common.
I got one of the buybacks in this year's Heritage of this set and it has the red line on it also.
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Looks like the sheet got snagged and ripped in the middle of the printing process.
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Except black is last, and the inside of the cardboard is usually dark like the back. A peel of the surface is possible, but would be pretty crazy. Usually the entire surfaced side pulls away. I'm thinking a solvent spill that eventually dried. That would keep the colors from printing, and mostly dried would give the fuzzy look to the black layer at that corner.

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That was my first thought, like the 1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNOF, but that affected like 12 cards. If this was a regular thing, many more cards would have been affected in this set. I was thinking the fuzzy black line was due to a thinner paper depth from the top layer being torn off.
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If the card was actually printed that way from the factory and made it out in distribution to the public, then the other affected cards to look for would be Matt Alexander, Dickie Noles, and Glenn Abbott. They were the three cards that bordered Comer in the upper right corner. Comer is on the left side, third card from the bottom.
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Here are some football cards.........
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That was my first thought, like the 1990 Topps Frank Thomas NNOF, but that affected like 12 cards. If this was a regular thing, many more cards would have been affected in this set. I was thinking the fuzzy black line was due to a thinner paper depth from the top layer being torn off.
The NNOF was a bit of something making the black plate faulty across those several cards.

A solvent stain would usually only affect one sheet. Maybe 2-3 if it was really bad, but usually just one since the surfacing keeps the stuff from soaking through. The thinning would have affected all the colors the same way.

Here's a card printed on thinned stock. It's from a makeready sheet where the corner was torn off to mark where the test sheets ended and the good ones began. The borders and blue are the most visible, and in person you can see how they both just fade out. The blanket presses into depressions, but it can only go so far.
I saw the sheet the card was from intact at the dealers before it got cut into singles. Tried to buy the whole thing, but couldn't afford a wrongback sheet. Settled for the corner card with the torn off corner.

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Found a red factory print line that crosses over 2 separate cards. Starts on the bottom of the Muffett card and crosses onto the Heman card which appears on an uncut sheet to the left.
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Can anyone figure out what the writing says at the bottom? I also have no clue about the other closeup from the left.
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I would assume that says, "1964 Rookie Stars" from an adjoining card. The Yankees rookies are red, and there are probably others.
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This yellow dot at the left is prevalent in about 33 to 40% of the cards of it on eBay. It is extremely easy to find if anyone is after such issues.
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Hey guys,

With Jim Wynn being my inductee into the Hall of Mediocrity I collect all things Toy Cannon. This is a cool print variation of which I now have 6 examples. I've seen it called the "Target" variation on eBay so that's what I call it too. I'm collecting as many as I can find so if you have any and don't really want it please let me know.

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Andy---I picked up one of those awhile back. Same seller threw in the other one below with weird cloud look

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Dang it Al! I really thought I might've had one you didn't have yet.
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I had not noticed this variation on this card, or others from 69 either...however, the last name "Horton" appears closer to the first name "Willie" on some copies while on other copies the first and last names appear farther apart.
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I had not noticed this variation on this card, or others from 69 either...however, the last name "Horton" appears closer to the first name "Willie" on some copies while on other copies the first and last names appear farther apart.
Those are caused bu a slight upward Magenta print offset. It is why the card on the left is a little fuzzy and you can see the small magenta strips, like the one above his belt.
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Those are caused bu a slight upward Magenta print offset. It is why the card on the left is a little fuzzy and you can see the small magenta strips, like the one above his belt.
That makes perfect sense....I have several horizontal magenta strips on my copy also
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The blue Aarons are old news :-}


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I came across this 68 Ribant card with a recurring white print spot to the right of his head.
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The 1975 Fred Lynn rookie was a hot card when I was 12 years old due to the white splotch on it. We all kept opening packs hoping to find one without the splotch, but never did.

Then to keep it interesting Topps did a 1990 Turn back the clock, and 2001 Archive card using the same picture, but it still had the splotch on it.

I wonder if the original exists in the Topps Vault without the defect?
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At first glance I assumed it was just his arm
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After about forty years of seeing that card and owning one I never noticed that whited out area. Is it possibly a crude Topps airbrushing out of his Pawtucket minor league uniform he was wearing?

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At first glance I assumed it was just his arm


I assumed the same. It always appeared to me to be an image of him wearing a really baggy uniform and posing in an awkward position. It appeared to me that he was resting his arms on something shoulder high and looking back at the camera, almost like Rich Hebner on his 78 Topps card


More likely, as Cliff mentions, a poor airbrushing job.
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What exactly is airbrushing anyway ?

Cliff that would make some sense except he has the Boston cap ?
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What exactly is airbrushing anyway ?

Cliff that would make some sense except he has the Boston cap ?
This might be stretching it, but I am going with the theory that someone at Topps turned the fancy P on his Pawtucket cap into a fancy B for a Red Sox emblem with airbrushing. Maybe I better quit while I am behind .
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I was kind of serious about the airbrushing question. It seems that term covers a lot of stuff Topps may have done to cards

I think your theory is as good as any. If so they did a better job on his B than on the Popovich card previously :-)

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Looks like I was off on the 1974 Pawtucket fancy P theory, they used a plain P hat back then. I did find another photo though, it looks like that white area may actually be his uniform. ETA, I will go back to my original theory that Topps airbrushed the Pawtucket cap and uniform (pretty good on the cap, crudely on the uniform) to make it look like a Red Sox uniform. It looks like an airbrush artist touched up the uniform for the 1982 Kmart card and greatly improved the appearance.
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It looks like an airbrush artist touched up the uniform for the 1982 KMart card and greatly improved the appearance.
Maybe the Kmart card is why I felt he was leaning against something shoulder high....really bad that I completely forgot about one of the most overproduced cards of all time(at least from the early 80s). I wonder why the 82 Kmart card's image was not used on the 90TBC card?

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Not sure if this has been noted before or not, but I noticed this recurring red line on the bottom edge of this 52 280 Boyer card. Are there other 52s with similar red lines on other 52s (including the card below the 280 card on an original sheet)?
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I think Irv may have flagged this one above. It is getting hard to keep track. We need an index. There may be at least one more on here somewhere, will check
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I was not sure if this had been flagged or not...I did not see it mentioned on Richard D's list (he usually keeps his list updated fairly well and I use his list as my index). This thread is getting too long to find previously mentioned cards like this so I rely more on Richard's list. Hopefully Irv will recall.

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Sliphorn posted it first. Irv followed up ....and then you in post 606 . This is officially a double dip I am afraid to look at how many times I have done that in here

See 678 for red at top of Masi

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Sliphorn posted it first. Irv followed up ....and then you in post 606 . This is officially a double dip I am afraid to look at how many times I have done that in here

See 678 for red at top of Masi
Thank you for finding that Al. I actually already posted my (original) copy in that series of posts....I upgraded my 280 recently and rediscovered the red line on my original copy. I am hoping Richard keeps updating his "database" of variations so we are all not "rediscovering" this stuff.
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Not sure if this has been noted before or not, but I noticed this recurring red line on the bottom edge of this 52 280 Boyer card. Are there other 52s with similar red lines on other 52s (including the card below the 280 card on an original sheet)?
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I think Irv may have flagged this one above. It is getting hard to keep track. We need an index. There may be at least one more on here somewhere, will check
I agree! Lots of posts with many anomalies/variations so it's no wonder we get duplicates. Not sure if my pic still exists in that older post, but here it is again.
(mine is hard to see at the very bottom of the card but it is there)
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I think this gives Cloyd the lead in appearances
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I think this gives Cloyd the lead in appearances
LOL. So he was still there.
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Yes, and we should assign Richard the job of indexing this thread too
Richard is usually pretty quick in updating his list from the posts appearing in this thread....the #280 red line variation may have been overlooked as the 283 Masi is listed. This thread, on the other hand, may be a little tougher to index.....

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I used to have the '70 set and don't remember seeing these. How common are they? Referring to the darker charcoal borders. Any price premium? Thanks for any information, I have 3 of them.

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