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2. Totally different situation. Essentially an ENTIRE race found those Negro League mascots offensive. They didn't have a say because they were being JUDGED by their SKIN COLOR. I'm not judging the Native Americans by their skin color. Skin color doesn't matter to me - character does.
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If they were photoshopped to remove the color would there be any problem? There are a LOT more things that are far more worth getting all worked up over. Steve B |
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That is an image of a person in black face. It is the same image that Al Jolson emulates in The Jazz Singer. Black face is not something I think African Americans think of positively.
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You really can't be serious, right?
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If you see people as people....... both are just happy guys doing their thing.*
If you see people as part of a certain group with whatever attaches to that.....well, I suppose they are stereotypes. Until "we" can see people as people, we'll always have problems. * Part of it is also that that as shown, there's also no historical context. In his time Al Jolson was ok. As were minstrel shows. It's only after that stuff became unpopular that it became negative. Who are the biggest collectors of most offensive stuff? Yep, usually someone from the group offended. Quite a puzzle there eh? Steve B |
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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2017/0...to-offend.html
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The point remains that until we collectively stop seeing race from either a positive or negative aspect there will always be problems. Human nature what it is I'm not exactly holding my breath waiting. The bit of art was drawn for Cleveland Scene magazines cover in 2012. Should the artist not draw it since it's not 1922? As a magazine cover about the issue it makes a pretty solid statement. Without that context it's lessened. Context matters a lot. Interestingly, the guy shown in the other picture later apologized for the facepaint and headdress, but not the team name or sweatshirt. http://blogs.mprnews.org/newscut/201...mbrace-change/ And what are we all to think of things like this? http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/...ostume-7802016 Overall, I think there are much bigger issues with the way Native Americans are treated to this day than a few sports logos. Steve B |
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