PWCC Auctions Ending tonight

[ullmandds]

Wow...PWCC has some impressive cards about to sell on ebay...3 nice Cy Young, glove showing T206's in mid grade...Ruth rookie VG at 75K!

Wow!!!

[bobbyw8469]

Yea...I think my consignments got lost in the shuffle. Maybe we are experiencing auction overload. But, yea, he has nice stuff.

[h2oya311]

...not to mention the gorgeous 1907 Wolverine News Cobb that sold for $10,767!

[Sean]

I know that it's a small item, but I tried for the Shonen Kulubu Babe Ruth. I didn't get it.

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by h2oya311

...not to mention the gorgeous 1907 Wolverine News Cobb that sold for $10,767!

That's just dumb.

[h2oya311]

Originally Posted by Bicem

That's just dumb.

agreed. especially since postcards suck.

[ValKehl]

PWCC had some nice-condition D350-3 Standard Biscuit cards that ended tonight. I was hoping to win this WaJo at a reasonable price, but it went for a good bit more that I was willing to pay. The card has a very prominent vertical printing flaw that significantly reduced its eye appeal to me. IMHO, the high bidders were bidding on the holder, rather than on the card.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1921-D350-3-...vip=true&rt=nc

[Bliggity]

I was really excited and fortunate to pick up this card tonight - it stayed just within my range. Looks like a beautiful card for the grade, I couldn't find anything in the scans that would keep it out of a "4" holder. Can't wait to add it to my set (which I decided to build after winning a few '39 PBs during the break here a couple weeks ago).

[ajjohnsonsoxfan]

Congrats to the winners of those super nice 1914 Cracker Jack examples - all PSA 5 and above. Lots of new pricing data to add to the good ole VCP

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Bicem

That's just dumb.

[re the 1907 Wolverine News Cobb]

No, it's just rare and significant at work, a formula which works exceedingly well in any collectibles field--behold the 1967 Corvette L88 (racing version of the 427, then making about 560 HP). They only made 20 that year, and perhaps half that survive. $20,000 or less would have gotten you a good one in the '80's. Now, $3.5 --$4 million without any strain at all. Early '60's racing/roadgoing Ferrari's, with an original price tag of say $10-20 K--can you say 8 figures now?

Postcards such as the Cobb or the Exhibits that followed are just another form of baseball cards--not used to sell any other product, but rather they themselves were the product, kind of like when Topps eliminated gum! In my view, they are the higher end baseball cards, analogous to 1989 Upper Deck, featuring far better quality image reproduction of the players, as opposed to other products of the era, and even until the Topps cards of the fifties. Look for this one, the W600, and the Dietsche Fielding Pose Cobb to follow the path of the 1914 Baltimore News Ruth over the long term. Oh my, wasn't that one a bit oversized too???

Everybody should buy what they like, but don't let a narrow view foreclose you from quite substantial appreciation potential in the coming decades.

With all due respect,

Larry

[Bicem]

What makes it so significant? There are multiple Cobb postcard issues from 1907 (and one from 1906 if you count the w601 pc). There are also in my opinion much better looking Cobb postcards (Rose, Hubel, ALPC, Novelty Cutlery) that are much more rare than the Wolverine News. No chance this card is ever in the same conversation as the Balt News Ruth or even the w600 Cobb.

Again, all just my opinion. It's all relative of course, money could be meaningless to the winner. But to me, that price is dumb.

[vintagehofrookies]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

[re the 1907 Wolverine News Cobb]

No, it's just rare and significant at work, a formula which works exceedingly well in any collectibles field--behold the 1967 Corvette L88 (racing version of the 427, then making about 560 HP). They only made 20 that year, and perhaps half that survive. $20,000 or less would have gotten you a good one in the '80's. Now, $3.5 --$4 million without any strain at all. Early '60's racing/roadgoing Ferrari's, with an original price tag of say $10-20 K--can you say 8 figures now?

Postcards such as the Cobb or the Exhibits that followed are just another form of baseball cards--not used to sell any other product, but rather they themselves were the product, kind of like when Topps eliminated gum! In my view, they are the higher end baseball cards, analogous to 1989 Upper Deck, featuring far better quality image reproduction of the players, as opposed to other products of the era, and even until the Topps cards of the fifties. Look for this one, the W600, and the Dietsche Fielding Pose Cobb to follow the path of the 1914 Baltimore News Ruth over the long term. Oh my, wasn't that one a bit oversized too???

Everybody should buy what they like, but don't let a narrow view foreclose you from quite substantial appreciation potential in the coming decades.

With all due respect,

Larry

God I hope your right.......................

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by Bicem

What makes it so significant? There are multiple Cobb postcard issues from 1907 (and one from 1906 if you count the w601 pc). There are also in my opinion much better looking Cobb postcards (Rose, Hubel, ALPC, Novelty Cutlery) that are much more rare than the Wolverine News. No chance this card is ever in the same conversation as the Balt News Ruth or even the w600 Cobb.

Again, all just my opinion. It's all relative of course, money could be meaningless to the winner. But to me, that price is dumb.

The very same characteristics that make the '14 Baltimore New Ruth significant. My best recollection is that that one came out of the gate in a 1989 auction at $6,000.

Wish you all the best, Jeff. Your posts are some of the most knowledgeable on the board, and I always enjoy reading them. Perhaps we can meet at the National some time,

Larry

[ls7plus]

Originally Posted by vintagehofrookies

God I hope your right.......................

Nice card Dan. That autograph makes up for a lot!!! Incidentally, REA characterized the Fielding Pose Cobb as "beyond rare."

All the best,

Larry

[Bicem]

Originally Posted by ls7plus

Perhaps we can meet at the National some time,

Larry

For sure, I'll be there, first round on me.

[BBB]

Been watching some of the items closely and was surprised at the values for the 1951 Bowman Mantle 2.5 and the Christy white cap 6. Both went for a few hundred more than I would have guessed. I watch em closely As I have both cards (mantle Psa 4 and Christy Psa 5) and use this to see what the current market value is.

1933 Goudey Ruths seemed to have planed out at a steady price.

Still kinda surprised ruth strip card go for so little. I have one from 1919 featuring a pitching pose (w512). IT's beat to hell so Id be lucky to get $200 flat. A ruth card, strip or not, where he's pitching as a Yankee for a couple hundred or $350 if it's in great shape? Seems low considering the man had so few cards in the major sets.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Bicem

That's just dumb.

Now, by 'dumb' are you meaning 'sick'?

I have trouble keeping up with you young whipper-snappers and your street language.

[bobbyw8469]

Now, by 'dumb' are you meaning 'sick'?

By dumb, he means if you or I had auctioned that card on Ebay, it would have brought 50% less.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Now, by 'dumb' are you meaning 'sick'?

I have trouble keeping up with you young whipper-snappers and your street language.

You are confusing "dumb" with "sick". My understanding is "dumb" is still stupid but "sick" is awesome.

Originally Posted by BBB

Been watching some of the items closely and was surprised at the values for the 1951 Bowman Mantle 2.5 and the Christy white cap 6. Both went for a few hundred more than I would have guessed. I watch em closely As I have both cards (mantle Psa 4 and Christy Psa 5) and use this to see what the current market value is.

1933 Goudey Ruths seemed to have planed out at a steady price.

Still kinda surprised ruth strip card go for so little. I have one from 1919 featuring a pitching pose (w512). IT's beat to hell so Id be lucky to get $200 flat. A ruth card, strip or not, where he's pitching as a Yankee for a couple hundred or $350 if it's in great shape? Seems low considering the man had so few cards in the major sets.

I agree with you on the strips Bryan. In the last few months I've been able to pick up a W514 and W515 Ruth both in PSA 4 and a W551 Ruth/Cobb panel in SGC 80 for about what it would have cost for a single Goudey Ruth in PSA 4. Now I'm sure many will disagree and say that money would have been better spent on the Goudey, but I really like the strips and they are harder to come by than any of the Goudey's...which admittedly doesn't (or hasn't) translated into demand.

[vintagehofrookies]

funny thing is that the Cobb Wolverine went for 1K less than what it previously sold for.

[Bicem]

Wow, really? What auction? Your Steel Tubes Cobb is another example of a Cobb postcard I'd much much much rather have.

[vintagehofrookies]

I can't remember which auction it was but I saw it in VCP (when PWCC listed his auctions I did the 1 day VCP membership and got a ton of info on PWCC's auctions). I agree on the Steel Tubes as it more rare (only 5 known I think) than the Wolverine News, although I would like to own one of those someday but before I ever saw a Steel Tube the Dietsche batting was my favorite Cobb but its now been bumped to #2 on my favorite Cobb list!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Bicem

What makes it so significant? There are multiple Cobb postcard issues from 1907 (and one from 1906 if you count the w601 pc). There are also in my opinion much better looking Cobb postcards (Rose, Hubel, ALPC, Novelty Cutlery) that are much more rare than the Wolverine News. No chance this card is ever in the same conversation as the Balt News Ruth or even the w600 Cobb.

Again, all just my opinion. It's all relative of course, money could be meaningless to the winner. But to me, that price is dumb.

The price was high but not surprising. It's a very early Cobb PC (arguably a first card), a very popular image of Cobb and it's the highest graded by far. A decent, low graded version costs 3K. 10K for a very high grade of it, very rare for its grade? If I was spending 10K on a PC, that would be one I'd consider (if I had all the other PCs of Cobb I wanted too).

[Leon]

Originally Posted by calvindog

The price was high but not surprising. It's a very early Cobb PC (arguably a first card), a very popular image of Cobb and it's the highest graded by far. A decent, low graded version costs 3K. 10K for a very high grade of it, very rare for its grade? If I was spending 10K on a PC, that would be one I'd consider (if I had all the other PCs of Cobb I wanted too).

There is another one of these somewhere Jeff. You really need one .

[vintagehofrookies]

Leon, that's a beauty!

[calvindog]

Originally Posted by Leon

There is another one of these somewhere Jeff. You really need one .

LOL it took me years to realize that you can't get them all, although God knows I tried.