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Old 03-30-2018, 09:18 AM
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I messaged this guy asking if hed get it graded when he initially had a no reserve auction for it and he didnt seem like he wanted to. Its gotta be a fake... the thing is, though, he had some other pretty high dollar cards that sold at prices as if people thought they were genuine, so you never know
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I messaged this guy asking if he’d get it graded when he initially had a no reserve auction for it and he didn’t seem like he wanted to. It’s gotta be a fake... the thing is, though, he had some other pretty high dollar cards that sold at prices as if people thought they were genuine, so you never know
Only SGC or Beckett will grade the blank backs and your best hope is an A with SGC (no grade numbers) so I am not sure that would even suffice most people who want it graded (i.e. through PSA).

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Old 03-30-2018, 10:34 AM
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Its real. At least his other stuff is real. I bought one of the 1951 Bowman Mantles and it was as advertised.
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Old 03-30-2018, 10:34 AM
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Im not a huge fan of grading but if I was spending $30,000 you're damn right I want it graded.
Don't go higher than $15,000.- it has no back
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:12 PM
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That's a really cool card. Surprised the comments are so negative. I'd love to own it.
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Old 03-30-2018, 12:50 PM
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That's a really cool card. Surprised the comments are so negative. I'd love to own it.
Agreed. Seems to happen a lot on threads like this. Maybe it is envy, being skeptical or something in between but this seems to be the current status here. Just look at the Cobb BL 460 thread for negativity.

As far as a blank back Leafs are concerned, they absolutely do exist however they far more rare than wrong backs and are 100% legit. I think that SGC will holder them. And if I am not mistaken all blank backs and wrong backs are limited to just the short prints. Sure that Ted and Anthony could speak more to this.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:04 PM
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I think Ted has said he collected Leafs back in 1948-49.
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Old 03-30-2018, 01:51 PM
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Leaf is notorious for its blank backs, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on one without a slab. There are too many really nice looking counterfeits (or 'reproductions' as the first sellers call them) on eBay in the Leaf world. Run a search for any marquee Leaf card and the repros come floating up.

As for grading, SGC has been inconsistent in its treatment of blank backs, even in the same order:




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I also question the price of the card assuming it is genuine. I have been collecting print freaks for many years. The only issue I've ever seen that really benefits financially from a major printing blow is T206, and I am not sure that a blank backed Plank would command a premium over a comparable complete one. There are a number of specialty collectors who'd pay extra for print freaks of players they happen to collect but that is a pretty small group, especially when you are talking elite pricing to begin with. I might drop a few bucks on a blank back specimen as an ancillary item for my main collection (as I did with the Aaron) but not the sort of money the seller wants. His other blank backs were overpriced by a factor of 10 IMO.

As for which cards might be found blank backed, it is entirely a happenstance event due to a missed printing pass on a full sheet. Whatever is on the sheet will end up blanked. We know Leaf used 49-card sheets, so there should be 49 blank backed cards out there from the sheet that yielded the Paige and probably the others the seller has.

Anyhooo, that's my $0.02 worth from the freaks and geeks collecting world...which is about the right valuation...
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too bad it's off center. :-)

that's one hell of a nice card. Count me in as one who would love to own it. $30k might be right for the rarity? PSA 1's are going for $7500+

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Besides, who ever heard of Leroy Paige??
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