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Old 01-28-2023, 02:28 PM
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Thanks, Greg. The stock used is pretty thin, but almost layered and the image is really strange. I would consider them very delicate.
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Old 01-28-2023, 03:06 PM
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Thanks, Greg. The stock used is pretty thin, but almost layered and the image is really strange. I would consider them very delicate.
Maybe I'm weird but I always like 'cards with photos that are very uncard-like'. There's so many boxing cards that come up that I've just never seen before still. It doesn't happen much with baseball or football; the percentage of boxing cards that there are few copies of out there is so much higher
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According to a few unrelated listings on Ebay, it's a c. 1932 set out of Sweden.

Google translate identifies the set name as "Sport Magazine Picture Gallery"
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Old 01-28-2023, 06:55 PM
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According to a few unrelated listings on Ebay, it's a c. 1932 set out of Sweden.

Google translate identifies the set name as "Sport Magazine Picture Gallery"
Dave, thanks for looking. I would agree, looks like they are definitely 1932. It appears they were supposed to go in an album. The checklist that I found online was hand written and appears to have mostly Swedish boxers along with Dempsey and Carnera.
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Dave beat me to it on the Swedish cards.

Chad, love the 3 Toneles. I find that series of cards to be an interesting insight into the ebb and flow of Cuban society at the time. First the capitalists tried to pretend they were sympathetic (the earliest premium has "pro agrarian reform" on it), then there was a statis period as shown on your card, then as the Commies tightened the grip and killed professional sports, athletes like Fernandez fled if they could.
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My collecting year has been made. I doubt I'll get something as big to me as this pretty much ever. I started my T220 Silver set when I was 12 in Christmas 2003, when my Dad bought me my first 7 boxing cards because they looked cool with the silver borders and he thought I might like them even though they weren't baseball. Probably a mistake, I've been addicted to the T220 Silver's and from there the whole c. 1910 E/T/C card period of boxing ever since. 6,975 days later my favorite set is finally complete, and in spectacular fashion for I completed my first set, my second set, my third set, my fourth set, my fifth set, my sixth set, my seventh set, and my eighth set all at once. It was peak hobby enjoyment to take this box over and open it up with my Dad like we did with my first T220 silvers.

I don’t know how many Corbett’s are out there, I have not tracked them as religiously as I have the 4 Donovans (a lot easier to track, as they have all been discovered during my time in the hobby and in the scan era) but these 8 probably represent around 50-66% of the total population now. PSA has 4 graded, SGC’s registry produces 0 Corbett’s and 0 Donovan’s and just 1-3 of the commons so it is clearly useless still but I don't believe they've ever had one. I've heard of a couple raw ones out there, but rumors aren't photos.

I don't want to out anyone who might want to remain anonymously private but I got a call from the original buyer, who didn't have to do this at all as I have no entitlement to these whatsoever, and structured a deal specifically just to get the Corbett sheet into my silver-loving collection. Even after we discussed bids and valuations, that it might one day be a Graziano type item in an open and properly listed sale, and his original intent to quietly keep it, he offered it to me because reconstructing this sheet is my passion project at a generous price in one heck of a gesture. Not only did he do this great kindness, he then shipped me the sheet immediately before we had even finished the logistics of payment. I've arranged for certain unique items to end up in certain peoples collections because they really care about them, but this is a value range I don't typically even play in at all. Wow!

I will also insert a plug for the remaining 2 panels that have survived to the present. To whoever owns the Randall/Belasco, I will pay you stupid money for it. Same for the Choyinski if its owner ever gets bored of looking at it. And with the Corbett printing proofs, I still need a final production normal Corbett to go along with them. I’m going to keep building some side sets of 23 (One side set I’m doing is fully beaters, trying to find the worst condition examples of each of the 23 base cards I can) of it as it is my favorite release, but I’m almost wrapped up here with as complete a collection as can be made. I’m not aware of any extant oddities I don’t own, but who knows what is out there (hint hint ). Maybe a Jack Goodman really will crop up one day and give me a new white whale.
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Old 01-29-2023, 04:41 PM
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My collecting year has been made. I doubt I'll get something as big to me as this pretty much ever. I started my T220 Silver set when I was 12 in Christmas 2003, when my Dad bought me my first 7 boxing cards because they looked cool with the silver borders and he thought I might like them even though they weren't baseball. Probably a mistake, I've been addicted to the T220 Silver's and from there the whole c. 1910 E/T/C card period of boxing ever since. 6,975 days later my favorite set is finally complete, and in spectacular fashion for I completed my first set, my second set, my third set, my fourth set, my fifth set, my sixth set, my seventh set, and my eighth set all at once. It was peak hobby enjoyment to take this box over and open it up with my Dad like we did with my first T220 silvers.

I don’t know how many Corbett’s are out there, I have not tracked them as religiously as I have the 4 Donovans (a lot easier to track, as they have all been discovered during my time in the hobby and in the scan era) but these 8 probably represent around 50-66% of the total population now. PSA has 4 graded, SGC’s registry produces 0 Corbett’s and 0 Donovan’s and just 1-3 of the commons so it is clearly useless still but I don't believe they've ever had one. I've heard of a couple raw ones out there, but rumors aren't photos.

I don't want to out anyone who might want to remain anonymously private but I got a call from the original buyer, who didn't have to do this at all as I have no entitlement to these whatsoever, and structured a deal specifically just to get the Corbett sheet into my silver-loving collection. Even after we discussed bids and valuations, that it might one day be a Graziano type item in an open and properly listed sale, and his original intent to quietly keep it, he offered it to me because reconstructing this sheet is my passion project at a generous price in one heck of a gesture. Not only did he do this great kindness, he then shipped me the sheet immediately before we had even finished the logistics of payment. I've arranged for certain unique items to end up in certain peoples collections because they really care about them, but this is a value range I don't typically even play in at all. Wow!

I will also insert a plug for the remaining 2 panels that have survived to the present. To whoever owns the Randall/Belasco, I will pay you stupid money for it. Same for the Choyinski if its owner ever gets bored of looking at it. And with the Corbett printing proofs, I still need a final production normal Corbett to go along with them. I’m going to keep building some side sets of 23 (One side set I’m doing is fully beaters, trying to find the worst condition examples of each of the 23 base cards I can) of it as it is my favorite release, but I’m almost wrapped up here with as complete a collection as can be made. I’m not aware of any extant oddities I don’t own, but who knows what is out there (hint hint ). Maybe a Jack Goodman really will crop up one day and give me a new white whale.

Wow! Very cool story, Greg. Have you decided how you’re going to display them yet? I’m great at buying stuff, but not so much at getting things displayed.

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Wow! Very cool story, Greg. Have you decided how you’re going to display them yet? I’m great at buying stuff, but not so much at getting things displayed.
If you ever figure out the secret to organization and display, please give me a call and share it .

I keep a series of spreadsheets cataloguing checklists and what I do and don't have, and then another cataloguing my boxing collection in its entirety. It's a lot easier to keep that sorted than the cards. I keep them all in boxes that I try to keep organized and labelled, and then a box on my work desk of my recent pickups I add in to their proper place every month or so. Still I somehow to always end up finding another box of random T cards somewhere I'd forgotten about and needs to be sorted in.

I want to, if I ever succeed in reconstructing the sheet, to get it framed up with all the panels in their original layout next to each other. I'm a little worried about display and that the vibrant red may fade with light exposure as T card red ink is wont to do, need to do deeper research into my options and just how safe they really are. Might also just make or (or pay someone good at photoshop) to recreate this sheet with the missing McAuliffe and Ryan spots and then print up as a reprint poster in the original full size to safely hang on the wall.
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My collecting year has been made. I doubt I'll get something as big to me as this pretty much ever. I started my T220 Silver set when I was 12 in Christmas 2003, when my Dad bought me my first 7 boxing cards because they looked cool with the silver borders and he thought I might like them even though they weren't baseball. Probably a mistake, I've been addicted to the T220 Silver's and from there the whole c. 1910 E/T/C card period of boxing ever since. 6,975 days later my favorite set is finally complete, and in spectacular fashion for I completed my first set, my second set, my third set, my fourth set, my fifth set, my sixth set, my seventh set, and my eighth set all at once. It was peak hobby enjoyment to take this box over and open it up with my Dad like we did with my first T220 silvers.

I don’t know how many Corbett’s are out there, I have not tracked them as religiously as I have the 4 Donovans (a lot easier to track, as they have all been discovered during my time in the hobby and in the scan era) but these 8 probably represent around 50-66% of the total population now. PSA has 4 graded, SGC’s registry produces 0 Corbett’s and 0 Donovan’s and just 1-3 of the commons so it is clearly useless still but I don't believe they've ever had one. I've heard of a couple raw ones out there, but rumors aren't photos.

I don't want to out anyone who might want to remain anonymously private but I got a call from the original buyer, who didn't have to do this at all as I have no entitlement to these whatsoever, and structured a deal specifically just to get the Corbett sheet into my silver-loving collection. Even after we discussed bids and valuations, that it might one day be a Graziano type item in an open and properly listed sale, and his original intent to quietly keep it, he offered it to me because reconstructing this sheet is my passion project at a generous price in one heck of a gesture. Not only did he do this great kindness, he then shipped me the sheet immediately before we had even finished the logistics of payment. I've arranged for certain unique items to end up in certain peoples collections because they really care about them, but this is a value range I don't typically even play in at all. Wow!

I will also insert a plug for the remaining 2 panels that have survived to the present. To whoever owns the Randall/Belasco, I will pay you stupid money for it. Same for the Choyinski if its owner ever gets bored of looking at it. And with the Corbett printing proofs, I still need a final production normal Corbett to go along with them. I’m going to keep building some side sets of 23 (One side set I’m doing is fully beaters, trying to find the worst condition examples of each of the 23 base cards I can) of it as it is my favorite release, but I’m almost wrapped up here with as complete a collection as can be made. I’m not aware of any extant oddities I don’t own, but who knows what is out there (hint hint ). Maybe a Jack Goodman really will crop up one day and give me a new white whale.

That's fantastic Greg. Glad you got that piece in your hands, and kudo's to whoever worked out the deal with you. Great twist to the story.
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Probably belongs on a non-sport site but I'll put my Reginald Denny here.
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Dave beat me to it on the Swedish cards.

Chad, love the 3 Toneles. I find that series of cards to be an interesting insight into the ebb and flow of Cuban society at the time. First the capitalists tried to pretend they were sympathetic (the earliest premium has "pro agrarian reform" on it), then there was a statis period as shown on your card, then as the Commies tightened the grip and killed professional sports, athletes like Fernandez fled if they could.

Adam, you’ve definitely given these cards a look or two. I had to go back and review the scans in your book after reading your post. Thanks as always for sharing your thoughts.
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