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Old 06-08-2018, 07:04 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Topps-...8AAOSw95lbGaHC

Just a couple of weeks ago this card was going consistently for 1400 or so. Now suddenly there are a bunch on ebay just listed and already approaching 3K. The one in the link hasn't even been on there for a day.

Similar runup in the basic Update, which is to put it mildly an abundant card even in a 10.

What the heck is this?

And not to single out PWCC, here's another example.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-Topps-...YAAOSwydpbGUyL
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Old 06-11-2018, 09:09 PM
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https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/35...p2047675.l2565

Top bidder 8 retractions. Third bidder 7. Price nearly double what they were a couple of weeks back. Yeah I am betting this is legit.
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Old 06-12-2018, 12:04 AM
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Some friends trying to help out the consigner?
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The two "Diamonds" in PWCC are being bid up in perfect sync by the same bidders. Sure looks funny to me.
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I'm shocked to discover gambling going on in this establishment.

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Beware paying high prices for "rare" (in the contrived sense) Trout cards if an electronic umpire is adopted (as has been discussed) for balls and strikes. Trout still can't hit a good fastball 3-5 inches above the belt, and that is indisputably a strike. .265 BA here we come!

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Beware paying high prices for "rare" (in the contrived sense) Trout cards if an electronic umpire is adopted (as has been discussed) for balls and strikes. Trout still can't hit a good fastball 3-5 inches above the belt, and that is indisputably a strike. .265 BA here we come!

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discussed and implemented are very different verbs - won't happen imo


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Beware paying high prices for "rare" (in the contrived sense) Trout cards if an electronic umpire is adopted (as has been discussed) for balls and strikes. Trout still can't hit a good fastball 3-5 inches above the belt, and that is indisputably a strike. .265 BA here we come!

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You have a more faith in pitchers' ability to pin point each and every pitch than for Trout to keep his average around .300? Sounds to me like you don't need electronic umpires, but rather electronic pitchers to make this a sound argument.
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You have a more faith in pitchers' ability to pin point each and every pitch than for Trout to keep his average around .300? Sounds to me like you don't need electronic umpires, but rather electronic pitchers to make this a sound argument.
Ah, but with Trout hitting a measly .213 in the entire upper one-third of the strike zone, the pitcher doesn't really have to pin point it. If he's got 92-95 mph, as more and more pitchers, relievers and starters alike do these days, all he has to do is put it above the belt and up. And more and more high strikes are being called, as the umps have learned or been instructed that pitchers have to have that pitch as a primary defense against the "launch angle," high strikeout, low average, good HR total guys. Having played on high-quality teams in multiple summer leagues through my teens and most recently in over 30 fast pitch hardball in my early to mid-40's (a league comprised of mostly good high school and college players, with 4 former professionasl and one former major-league player to boot when I played), I can tell you it is difficult in the extreme to upper-cut a good, high fastball.

Sincerely, best of luck to you if you decide to place big bucks on him,

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