deadball era postcards?

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Posted By: scott

last night exploring the posts,somebody posted a ed plank postcard.the photography was fantastic.i explored the old cardboard website on the various series,deciding now to expand my collecting interests.
anybody out there collect postcards pre 1920?i know mike wheat has a nice selection of AC Dietsche detroit tigers,but what other dealers have a selection?i'll do a search today but any help would be appreciated.in general ,are these graded by the grading companies?
any input is helpful.
thanks again,
scott

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Posted By: Josh K.

scott,

Unfortunately, I dont have an answer to your question, but would be interested in a link to the postcard that you mentioned. Thanks.

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Posted By: Jim Clarke

Hello Scott,

I know Dan sells many postcards on Ebay using the ID of gtp.ro Old Cardboard did his Bio in the last issue. A seller I would stay away from on Ebay with post cards is greenmonster. The Dietsche post cards are most common. The Tigers are much easier than the Cubs. Their are two Cobbs in the set. The throwing PIC is harder than the hitting PIC. Post cards are still very under valued and are great to collect! Jerry Spillman is an expert on Rose post cards. He is a collector/dealer. Check out my website which feature many post cards. I think the earliest one I have is 1904. E-mail me if you have any questions or if you just want to show me buys you have made... Not enough post card collectors out there.

I know SGC grades post cards and PSA I think does too as they do Plows Candy cards. I would not use PSA though.

After you start collecting let me know if you like them clean on the back or post marked with a stamp and date from being mailed????

I lucked out one time in a post card auction where I scored a Peck & Snider 1869 Post card of Cincinatti... LOL

http://www.zmotive.com/gallery/jccards

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Posted By: Anonymous

jim,
what's you e-mail address?
scott

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Posted By: Lyle

especially the Rookie ones of Cobb !

This is a 1907 Wolverine News obtained from a forum member .

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

I've dealt with Greenmonster on several occasions - not only does he have great stuff, he is also extremely knowledgeable about old baseball post-cards, and more than willing to share information with fellow enthusiasts. If I were going to suggest resources for old baseball post-card info, I would suggest Robert S., Dan Y., and Jim S.(GreenMonster), in that order.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

Which Dan is the gtp.ro on ebay? I've gotten some postcards from him in the past.

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Posted By: Scott Forrest

Dan is a very thorough researcher - seems to really enjoy his hobby.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I agree. He has an incredible abundance of early baseball postcards. Including a number of locally relevant (to me) cards that I had never seen before.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

It is a PC796 and I way overpaid for it at the time because I liked it so much. I have a number of postcards from the era. They are interesting and much scarcer than most conventionally collected sets. They also are somewhat obscure and can be found for lower prices than other cards from the era (like that will last for much longer). There is no way I'd have a Wagner from his playing days except on one of those Pinkerton Scorecard/Postcard cards.

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Posted By: bruce dorskind

Whilst the focus of my collection has been on rare baseball cards,
advertising pieces, scorecards and tickets from defunct leagues and player
endorsed sheet music, I have been very fortunate to acquire some of
the truly rare post cards in the hobby.

Among my favorites are:

Athlectic Baseball Team 1906 Andrew Coakley
Rotograph Series 1908 Joseph McGinnity
Atlanta Crackers 1909 Dick Bayless- Charlotte
Cleveland Indians 1910 Carisch
Monarch Typewriter 1911 Eddie Collins (this one is super rare)


If anyone wants to learn more, see copies or learn about value,
let me know.

I have always thought that these rare post cards (all of which are in
at least excellent to mint condition) have been long indervalued.

Look forward to hearing from you

Bruce

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Posted By: RobertS

Thanks for the plug, Scott. However, I'll bet Jim and Dan know a lot more than I do about postcards.

I've really only been into them since the late 1990s. I found my first few PCs in the 1980s but only as an afterthought to baseball cards. As type card prices escalated, I found postcards to be more affordable and almost as interesting!

These three books helped me learn much about the history of baseball postcards and postcard processes (along with a bunch of Internet sites and asking lots of questions from old time PC dealers):

Sports Postcard Price Guide: A Comprehensive Reference
by Mashburn
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1885940041/qid=1120859929/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_6/103-5817764-5685468?v=glance&s=books

Tuff Stuff's Baseball Postcard Collection
by Ron Menchine
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930625536/qid=1120859889/sr=1-3/ref=sr_1_3/103-5817764-5685468?v=glance&s=books

A Picture Postcard History of Baseball
by Ron Menchine
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0930256212/qid=1120859889/sr=1-4/ref=sr_1_4/103-5817764-5685468?v=glance&s=books

These two books that I've had since the early 1980s also contain some good info on PCs:

The Sports Collectors Bible
by Bert Randolph Sugar
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0672527413/qid=1120860661/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-5817764-5685468?v=glance&s=books

Sport American Baseball Memorabilia
by James Beckett
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0937424315/qid=1120860503/sr=1-105/ref=sr_1_105/103-5817764-5685468?v=glance&s=books

Of course, I have some info and a bunch of pre-war player and stadium postcard images on my site, VintageBall.com, with the photos contributed by different collectors (thanks to all those who submitted. In fact, I have a lot more info and images that need to be posted soon (many people have sent in new info on some of the more obscure issues).

The VintageBall.com postcard page can be found here: http://www.vintageball.com/postcards.html

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Posted By: Daniel Bretta

Robert, your website is great. My major focus is photographs and I would like to showcase my photos on a site like yours someday when I have more time. I just recently discovered that some photos I have had for a while were taken during the first game the Yankees played in the Polo Grounds (Frank Chance Day, April 17, 1913)which is also the first home game the Yankees played after changing their name from the Highlanders. I really like those 1912 Fenway shots you have.

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Posted By: RobertS

I'm glad you like the site, Dan.

Here's another Frank Chance day:



This one took place in Chicago...complete with automobile parade which went to the "White Sox Base Ball Park" not to the Cubs grounds!

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Posted By: bruce dorskind

In 1915, the Buffalo Feds held a cadre of special days honoring
the Federal League stars who had jumped from eiher the American
or National League.

They had hoped such days would jump start week attendance.

Among those players so honored were Frank Chance's better third,
Jor Tinker and notorious first baseman Hal Chance

I am fortunate to have programs with full page pictures from each
of those "special days."

They are quite rare- though have realized the value that reflects
their rarity.

Happy to share with anyone so interested

Bruce

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Posted By: Josh K.

edited - posted in wrong thread.

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Posted By: Mark Holt

Great site Robert. I have one of the Sioux City Packers postcards and enjoyed reading the team profile.

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

I had a PC796 complete set for a while but sold it to concentrate on other things. I kind of regret it now. It has some unusual photos which are great, including the Plank. Another great set from around the same time period is the Rose PC set. I only have one of these. I don't see them offered very often these days.

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Posted By: Paul

Here's a couple of nice ones.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

Lefty O'Doul from his bar, Mickey Mantle from his motel, Larry Sherry 1960 Dodgers issue, Pinkerton PC/Scorecard Bender: