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Old 12-24-2018, 10:52 AM
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Default So sick of these mini BGS-graded Star cards

Saw another one today, compare. The minis always seem to be from the same seller.
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Old 12-24-2018, 02:23 PM
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Hi Peter I'm not familiar with this card and don't understand. The card graded 9.5 is trimmed?
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Old 12-24-2018, 03:50 PM
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Hi Peter I'm not familiar with this card and don't understand. The card graded 9.5 is trimmed?
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It looks quite a bit smaller to me than the 9, as have quite a few other cards I have seen from the same seller that I have posted about before. Maybe he just had a huge run of natural shorts?
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Old 12-25-2018, 09:30 AM
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Could the minis be the ones that were printed in Florida in the 90ís? I donít know much about Star. It would be disheartening to find out the only TPG that slabs Star canít spot fakes.
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Is Beckett lienent on short cuts from all card sets?
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Old 12-25-2018, 06:59 PM
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Could the minis be the ones that were printed in Florida in the 90ís? I donít know much about Star. It would be disheartening to find out the only TPG that slabs Star canít spot fakes.
I don't think they're fakes. Either they're just short naturally, or they're trimmed, I don't know. But I've seen quite a few of them.
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Old 12-26-2018, 07:55 AM
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I've noticed the same thing as Peter. Those cards are not naturally thin, they're trimmed as f*ck. This is really pissing me off.

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Old 12-26-2018, 08:29 AM
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If that's so one is left with two very disturbing choices -- either Beckett can't spot an obviously trimmed card that is clearly short to the eye, or they are doing favors for a large submitter.
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If that's so one is left with two very disturbing choices -- either Beckett can't spot an obviously trimmed card that is clearly short to the eye, or they are doing favors for a large submitter.
Are you trying to tell me that people with a license to print money with zero oversight might pull something shady?

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Could the minis be the ones that were printed in Florida in the 90ís? I donít know much about Star. It would be disheartening to find out the only TPG that slabs Star canít spot fakes.
A lot of people just believe the stories they are told (without doing any research on their own). For example, one story is the owner of Star Co. took the original printing plates and printed thousands of these cards again in the 90s. This simply is not true. If you look at Beckett's population report, you will see that they graded only 728 Jordan rookies (1984-85 card #101) and 412 second-year cards (1985-86 card #117). If the owner reprinted these cards in the 90s, and there was no way to tell the difference between these and the originals, then don't you think there would be thousands of these cards sitting inside Beckett holders?

Now Peter, if you notice that these undersized cards keep coming from the same seller, then I think this needs to be brought to Beckett's attention. This doesn't look good at all.
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