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Old 07-26-2018, 02:48 PM
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Good call on Madden, but I think it took until 2013 or thereabouts to get legends, so maybe we'll get some new pre-war collectors, but will take some time
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Old 07-28-2018, 02:39 PM
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I used to play a cool game on my PC back in the late 90s called NFL Legends. I have not seen anything complimentary since...except for Madden I guess.

Steve Sabol and his father with NFL Films helped fill in the gap!

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Old 07-28-2018, 08:20 PM
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I used to play a cool game on my PC back in the late 90s called NFL Legends. I have not seen anything complimentary since...except for Madden I guess.

Steve Sabol and his father with NFL Films helped fill in the gap!

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Cool - I didn't play that one, but I just remembered "Super Bowl Sunday" from the 80s by Avalon Hill - that was a good one too - but I still mostly just played the recent super bowls - the historical bug didn't bite me until 20+ years later with All-Pro Football 2K8 by 2K sports.
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Old 07-28-2018, 10:03 PM
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Thanks for all the good replies. As always, it has proven to be educational. I think the main takeaway from this thread for me is the seasonal nature of collecting. Growing up, baseball and baseball cards were a part of summer. Football happened after school started. I didn't collect football cards as much as baseball cards as a kid. Only as an adult have I made the decision to revisit them. I never saw it that way before....

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Old 08-01-2018, 11:37 AM
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Baseball has been around since 1869.
Baseball was America's game for forever.
Photos of baseball players have been around forever.
Football was only popular in college until the 50's mildly popular until the 1970's and didn't become America's game until recently.
Kids collected and traded baseball cards with no value n the 50's are still alive today many trying to recapture their childhood.
Baseball has 9 individual players, all can be a star at any moment.
Football has QB's, RB's and receivers.
Football is shot mostly from a distance.
Baseball has close ups of every batter and pitcher every inning.

Maybe the 80's generation will pick up the pace in 2026. But capturing a childhood might be hand held games or flip phones.
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I think it's two simple things for me. (I do buy football, but I won't pay much and I usually only collect my team, Detroit)

a. Short careers keep player collecting to a minimum.

b. Absolute value crash and disinterest the moment a player retires because of short careers. Any investment of consequence is completely foolhardy.
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Old 08-19-2018, 04:51 PM
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I've shifted into more football collecting the last couple of years. In my case, football has always been my favorite sport, and the stars / HOF'ers from the 40's - 70's are within my budget. I can't say the same for Baseball. 2 examples, my favorite football cards in my collection right now. No, neither have premium centering but they make up for that in other ways and to me are beautiful vintage rookies .

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Those are really nice David! Hope to see more of your cards here.

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I think collecting (and buying/selling) in any collectible market often goes where the best market value and interest lie. Demand breeds demand. Some folks will delude themselves into thinking that they're pure collectors but would prefer to buy more valuable cards if they could afford to do so. Football cards have generally been (relative to baseball) an easier buy than baseball for a long time now due to lesser demand. And honestly I'm not much interested in why that is the case. It is what it is.

Since 1990 I've been able to buy just about any card that I really wanted (1968-1972 Topps BB and FB), but I haven't bought many football cards. The return on investment is not as great for the players that I'm interested in. The card series are small and the challenge of completing a FB set was never really there for me. How many of you ever look at those sets that you collected and put in a binder on a shelf?

No it's not all about money, but at least I'm honest enought with myself to understand that some day I am going to sell it all and I want to get top dollar. No one in my family wants the cards. Children and grandchildren in my family could not care less about cards. Some of the Mantle cards that I bought in the early 90s have been graded and have now quadupled in value. I can't say that about any of the football cards I could have bought instead.

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What now, you're saying that unless someone can afford more expensive cards they're not "pure collectors"?

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