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Old 03-29-2018, 07:00 AM
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I don't think the conspiracy is full blown or anything but it is true that insurance companies will deny effective treatment if it's too expensive and force a patient to endure lesser treatment for longer periods of time for no real reason at all. In a sense that is keeping a cure from some people.
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I don't think the conspiracy is full blown or anything but it is true that insurance companies will deny effective treatment if it's too expensive and force a patient to endure lesser treatment for longer periods of time for no real reason at all. In a sense that is keeping a cure from some people.
A young man with whom my son went to school was recently released from the hospital psych unit because the family's coverage ran out. Two days later, he stabbed a man in the grocery store, fortunately not fatally.
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Insurance companies will always steer you towards the cheapest alternative. That I agree with 100%.
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Old 03-29-2018, 07:21 AM
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My mother is currently under treatment and while her team of specialists laid out a sophisticated course of treatments at specialized institutions, her insurance company, who has taken money from her during her entire healthy life when she didn't need the insurance, rejected the proposed treatment. Instead they're forcing her to undergo twice as many therapies over twice the time. And it's not because it's more effective, it's because it's cheaper.
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My mother is currently under treatment and while her team of specialists laid out a sophisticated course of treatments at specialized institutions, her insurance company, who has taken money from her during her entire healthy life when she didn't need the insurance, rejected the proposed treatment. Instead they're forcing her to undergo twice as many therapies over twice the time. And it's not because it's more effective, it's because it's cheaper.
That incident should be a crime. Sorry to hear that and hope your mom gets better.
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That incident should be a crime. Sorry to hear that and hope your mom gets better.
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Thank you for the well wishes. They are appreciated.
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I don't think the conspiracy is full blown or anything but it is true that insurance companies will deny effective treatment if it's too expensive and force a patient to endure lesser treatment for longer periods of time for no real reason at all. In a sense that is keeping a cure from some people.
My girlfriend's health insurance company tried dropping all coverage on her the very next day after she was diagnosed with stage 3 pancreatic cancer.

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I hope your mother gets the treatment she needs and starts to feel better soon.

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Old 03-29-2018, 02:57 PM
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Thank you. I hope the same for your girlfriend. I've had some people in my life go through that diagnosis as well. I know how daunting it can be.
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I mean, the internet has increased the number of people who think the earth is flat exponentially so.............
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If you haven't see it yet, be sure to check out "The Rainmaker"

"There's nothing more thrilling than nailing an insurance company"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SapUva6f_b0
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I have given this subject a lot of thought over the years. I ask myself:

Who was the last U. S. President to die from cancer?

Who was the last member of the Royal family in England to die from cancer?

Who was the last Astronaut to die from cancer?

Who was the last cancer researcher to die from cancer?

Kemo was first introduced in 1956. It is still used today as the primary treatment of cancer.

That is 62 years without change.

Think about other fields of technology and their advancement over the last 62 years.

The space program, social media, computers, air travel, automobiles, the internet, cost of living, technology..

Yet, we don't have the technology for a cure for cancer.

We supposedly put a man on the moon and back in 1969... but we can't cure cancer.

We can create a life in a test tube.. but we can't cure cancer.

We can clone animals and people.. but we can't cure cancer.

Just sayin'...

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"We supposedly put a man on the moon and back in 1969."

I think you ruined your argument right there.
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I have given this subject a lot of thought over the years. I ask myself:

Who was the last U. S. President to die from cancer?

Who was the last member of the Royal family in England to die from cancer?

Who was the last Astronaut to die from cancer?

Who was the last cancer researcher to die from cancer?

Kemo was first introduced in 1956. It is still used today as the primary treatment of cancer.

That is 62 years without change.

Think about other fields of technology and their advancement over the last 62 years.

The space program, social media, computers, air travel, automobiles, the internet, cost of living, technology..

Yet, we don't have the technology for a cure for cancer.

We supposedly put a man on the moon and back in 1969... but we can't cure cancer.

We can create a life in a test tube.. but we can't cure cancer.

We can clone animals and people.. but we can't cure cancer.

Just sayin'...
About four years ago my cousin's wonderful 3 year old daughter was playfully running around the house like a typical 3 year old does when suddenly she collapsed and couldn't stand up again. They rushed her to the hospital and the doctors discovered a tumor in her brain. She spent the next 3 years undergoing numerous radiation treatments and surgery, spending a huge amount of that time in the hospital.

She had a few months after that of normal life. Then late last year they found that the tumors had returned and spread. These would not respond to radiation treatment and could not be surgically removed. She is not expected to see her next (8th) birthday. My cousin, his ex-wife (her mother) and my aunt (and myself, albeit from afar) can do nothing but watch her condition deteriorate. Its the most excruciatingly painful thing a person can experience - waiting for your kid to die in front of you. She has now spent most of her life, and pretty much all of it that she can remember, dying of cancer.

This happens to millions of people around the world every year. You really think the tens of thousands of people involved in cancer research, many of whom have experienced something similar to this, would just cover up a cure and let this happen to people without a single one of them saying anything about it? That idea is beyond stupid.
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I have given this subject a lot of thought over the years. I ask myself:

Who was the last U. S. President to die from cancer?

Who was the last member of the Royal family in England to die from cancer?

Who was the last Astronaut to die from cancer?

Who was the last cancer researcher to die from cancer?

Kemo was first introduced in 1956. It is still used today as the primary treatment of cancer.


That is 62 years without change.

Think about other fields of technology and their advancement over the last 62 years.

The space program, social media, computers, air travel, automobiles, the internet, cost of living, technology..

Yet, we don't have the technology for a cure for cancer.

We supposedly put a man on the moon and back in 1969... but we can't cure cancer.

We can create a life in a test tube.. but we can't cure cancer.

We can clone animals and people.. but we can't cure cancer.

Just sayin'...

The man, who developed one of the first (possibly the first) chemotherapeutic agents (aka Kemo???) in the 1950s, died of cancer in the 1980s. He was a patient in our office.

And his discovery is still used today, most recently by a gentleman I play golf with.
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