May 17th and no no hitter yet?

[Snapolit1]

Kind of surprising. Seems like there is a no-no pretty quickly in April every year, as the pitchers are usually out in front of the batters. Wonder what is the longest a season has gone without a no hitter?

(If I missed one make believe this post never happened!)

[JoeDfan]

1959?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Kind of surprising. Seems like there is a no-no pretty quickly in April every year, as the pitchers are usually out in front of the batters. Wonder what is the longest a season has gone without a no hitter?

(If I missed one make believe this post never happened!)

Already been a cycle. There have been 'no hitter's by the starting pitcher only to leave because of a pitch count and not go the johan santana way..

NL no hitters are worth 90% of a AL no hitter, or AL 1.1 versus a 1 for a NL so the real question is when will there be a AL no hitter or interleague in an AL park

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=no+hitter

[Snapolit1]

Conforto of the Mets missed a cycle a few nights ago . . . by a single. How often does that happen?

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Already been a cycle. There have been 'no hitter's by the starting pitcher only to leave because of a pitch count and not go the johan santana way..

NL no hitters are worth 90% of a AL no hitter, or AL 1.1 versus a 1 for a NL so the real question is when will there be a AL no hitter or interleague in an AL park

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ight=no+hitter

Your %'s would be accurate if there were 10 batters in a line-up instead of 9, if the pitcher always hit .000 and the replacement #9 (or #10 in your scenario) batter always hit 1.000, and if the opposing pitcher wasn't ever replaced by a pinch hitter.

[clydepepper]

Who threw 2 no-hitters in a year that he won only 5 games?

[Cliff Bowman]

Originally Posted by clydepepper

Who threw 2 no-hitters in a year that he won only 5 games?

Virgil "Fire" Trucks with the Tigers in the 50's.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Cliff Bowman

Virgil "Fire" Trucks with the Tigers in the 50's.

Correct! 1952 fairly amazing.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by D. Bergin

Your %'s would be accurate if there were 10 batters in a line-up instead of 9, if the pitcher always hit .000 and the replacement #9 (or #10 in your scenario) batter always hit 1.000, and if the opposing pitcher wasn't ever replaced by a pinch hitter.

It does account for it. Plus i think DH in the American league has a 10% better chance to get a hit versus a Starting pitcher plus a pinch hitter in the 9th etc..

[Snapolit1]

Didn't know Virgil was the uncle of recently deceased Allman Brother drummer Butch Trucks.

[clydepepper]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Didn't know Virgil was the uncle of recently deceased Allman Brother drummer Butch Trucks.

He also threw a one-hitter that year & all three low-hit games were 1-0!

He finished 5-19 with a 3.97 on a horrible Tigers team.

After 'retiring', he was the batting practice pitcher for several teams for years and years.


He passed away at 95 in 2013 but in 2005, someone had given my his address to which I sent a twenty dollar check and received a signed copy of his biography, "Throwing Heat" and a very nice personalized thank you note in the shaky cursive writing of an 87-year-old. I do wish I had taken the opportunity to meet him.

[D. Bergin]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

It does account for it. Plus i think DH in the American league has a 10% better chance to get a hit versus a Starting pitcher plus a pinch hitter in the 9th etc..

If that were true, that's only one spot in the batting order. I'm not a mathematician by any means, but I believe you'd have to divide that 10% difference among the 9 spots in the original batting order to come close to an actual conclusion

....... and nowadays losing teams are generally subbing in a pinch hitter for their starting pitcher long before the 9th inning. Especially if they are being shut out and are desperate for runs.

Yes, it is slightly easier to pitch a no-hitter in the NL as opposed to the AL, but nowhere near the difference you are proposing.

Either way, it's a damn fine accomplishment, that should not be diminished one way or another.

I'm sure more no-hitters happen against weak hitting teams rather then strong hitting teams to. These are still professional hitters though, and lots has to go right for something like this to fall into place.

[bn2cardz]

I don't think there is any support for the NL vs AL debate overall.

The opposite thinking of a DH making one more spot in the rotation harder is that the pitcher not having to swing a bat and possibly run bases can rest their bodies between innings.

The batting average for the NL is .252, for the AL it is .247. So you could say that the NL would be harder since they have the higher batting average.

The DH was introduced in 1973. Since then here are the break downs:
51 - AL
54 - NL

Perfect Games Since 1973
9 - AL
5 - NL

[bn2cardz]

Originally Posted by Snapolit1

Kind of surprising. Seems like there is a no-no pretty quickly in April every year, as the pitchers are usually out in front of the batters. Wonder what is the longest a season has gone without a no hitter?

(If I missed one make believe this post never happened!)

I don't know why it seems like there are so many so early to you.

2016 only had one it was in April (4/21), but in 2015 the first of 7 came on June 9th.

Other firsts over last 10 years:
05/25/214
7/2/2013
4/21/2012
5/3/2011
4/17/2010
7/10/2009
5/19/2008
4/18/2007

So only 5 seasons over the past 10 seasons had one before 05/16 and only 4 with ones in April.

As far as the longest you can look at 2005, there weren't any.

[Snapolit1]

Originally Posted by bn2cardz

I don't know why it seems like there are so many so early to you.

2016 only had one it was in April (4/21), but in 2015 the first of 7 came on June 9th.

Other firsts over last 10 years:
05/25/214
7/2/2013
4/21/2012
5/3/2011
4/17/2010
7/10/2009
5/19/2008
4/18/2007

So only 5 seasons over the past 10 seasons had one before 05/16 and only 4 with ones in April.

As far as the longest you can look at 2005, there weren't any.

Maybe I just recall the ones better that come early on. Bigger splash.