Specialized Catalog Cuban Cards Answer

[Roland 49]

Hello, now I show you some small balls that were used in the late 40s and early 50s, for the players to sign, they will see a normal size ball and 4 small balls each of them signed by different teams: Almendares , Havana, Marianao and Cienfuegos, these balls are rare to find.

[Butch7999]

¡Santa caballa, Roland! Este es otro juego completamente desconocido para nosotros. ¡Estupendo!
¿Conoces el año de fabricación?

(Perdone nuestro incómodo español, estamos usando una traducción por computadora.)

[Roland 49]

Hello, you send me this photo that appeared in the 2014 thread, of the Romeo and Juliet cards, that photo is from the day that the cards I mentioned earlier were brought to my house, and those cards were in my office and they photographed them and They put them in the thread, your question is that you do not know the following cards: Adolfo Luque's belongs to the rarest collection of all, "Gener Cigars 1925", Martin Dihigo's, is from "Campo Alegre 1946", very rare as well. below the latter are Mallorquinas by Lloyd and Willie Foster 1928, all appear in my catalog, the other photo is from the album "Aguilitas 2da serie Artistica" complete with the 900 letters.

[Frankish]

This thread has been very educational. Even though this isn't a specific area of collection for me, I'd be willing to buy a catalog (even a pdf file) for a reasonable price.

Of course, Roland, you can do whatever makes sense to you, but if you offer the catalog as a pdf file for $20 or so, put me down for one. I know a similar business model worked well for the author of the Japanese baseball card checklist and price guide.

Cheers!

[Butch7999]

¡Gracias, Roland!
No estábamos familiarizados con ninguna versión de Cubilete - los dados que se muestran en la segunda imagen,
con la copa de dados Almedares, parece "dice poker" ("póquer con dados"), que es ligeramente popular
aquí en los Estados Unidos (tal vez un poco más popular aquí que los juegos de dominó, que sabemos que también
son grandes en Cuba).

No tenemos idea, sin embargo, de cómo los dados en el primer cuadro, con los emblemas de los equipos
y las iniciales de los equipos, cuentan en la jugada.
¿Conoces al fabricante o al año de la versión en particular de Cubilete que muestres?

[Roland 49]

Hello Jason, now I see that you sent me some writings about the book, I only read the beginning because it is quite extensive but I see that it has to do with González Herrevaria, therefore it is surely very interesting and I will leave it for tomorrow, González was in Havana Before editing The Pride of Havana, on that occasion we could not see each other, but years later a friend of mine from the early 60s, Miguel A. Sanchez, at the time we played chess, on one of his visits to Cuba came to my house To request data for one of his next books, we remember that time when we both worked on the technical part of the World Chess Olympiad in Havana in 1966, as Inspector and I as Prosecutor, of the times I had some quick conversations with the United States champion, Robert "Bobby" Fischer, on some occasions my friends would give me anything for Fischer to sign, and talking about that with my friend he sees Echevarria's book, and he tells me that they are friends, and I had contact for him To through email, with González Hechevarria a few years ago he wrote to me and told me about an upcoming trip to Cuba and that when he got there, where he was going to go first was to my house, but he couldn't come to Cuba at that time.

[Roland 49]

Now I show 2 photos of Monte Irvin in another of his visits to my house in 2004, in one he is seen signing a Magazine "Photos" that his photo appears on the cover, in the other with Belinda Manning, the daughter of Max Manning, watching photos of his father when he played in Cuba.

[Roland 49]

This photo was of a deserved tribute to Heberto Blanco in 1998, from left to right Asdrubal Baro, Daniel Parra, Heberto Blanco, Rolando Sanchez, and Luis Zayas, all of them good friends of mine, the first three appear in the Cuban card collections, I I stay next to Heberto because he wanted it to be like that

[Butch7999]

¡Hola de nuevo, Rolando! Yes, uploading images can be a little tricky. You seem to have figured out how to do it,
though, in post #52 above.

The "attachment" procedure we were referring to involves clicking on "Post Reply" in the little blue button
(we assume you have been doing that each time you post a message), so that this is what you see, no?


The red arrow points to the "paper clip" symbol, which is probably too tiny to be seen clearly on a mobile phone.
If you can click on the "clip," though, it will produce a "pop-up" that looks like this:


Click on the grey button that says "Choose File," then find on your phone or computer the pictures you want to post,
and double-click on one of them, then click the other grey button that says "Upload." You will have to do that for each picture,
one at a time.

The big problem with pictures "attached" that way to a post is that they are reduced to a small size. So use whatever method
you used to post that previous photo, it seems to have worked just fine! Or, again, you could e-mail the game pictures to us
and we'll post them here for you.
¡Gracias una vez más!

[Roland 49]

Now I send you an image of the baseball game, if you see them you let me know, the photo I sent of Heberto Blanco, it came out by chance I send the messages in another way now I am going to try as you say.

[Roland 49]

Now I send you an image of the baseball game, if you see them you let me know, the photo I sent of Heberto Blanco, it came out by chance I send the messages in another way now I am going to try as you say.

[Roland 49]

This is a photo of one of the times when Monte Irvin was at my house in 2004,

[Fred]

Roland,

This has got to be an N54 record - one member (with more than 100 posts), has over 40% of the posts in a single thread!

It's great to see people with expertise in a niche like Cuban cards so willing to help other collectors.

Please keep posting!

[Roland 49]

Hello Fred, thank you for encouraging us to continue publishing, my intention is to help Cuban card collectors in whatever way I can, there are several decades of research in memorabilia, and I have learned something and I would like to continue learning every day, I think some Think the same of you, that you want to know something more, to all those who ask me I try to give an answer as complete as possible, sometimes they ask me by email and tell me to publish the answers through the 2 threads, and I consider it correct. that others might be interested in the topic. I do not know if as you say it is a record since I do not keep that account or that is my intention, I want to help you all in your doubts. Greetings Fred.

[Roland 49]

Now you have the image of Baseball, there are all the components but the cube with the dice did not appear in the photo, look at the printed names of the players on the cards: Miñoso, Amoros, C. Pascual, Miranda, All the cards have names , I changed the size to see if they come out, you tell me I said you see to send you more

[Roland 49]

Now there is another group of photos of Baseball,

[Butch7999]

¡Hola, Roland! ¡Maravilloso! ¡Magnífica! These are just the sort of images we were hoping to see.
¡Muchas gracias!

Your message above suggests you also tried to e-mail photos to us -- unfortunately, there is nothing in our mailbox
from you. If you want to try e-mailing us again, please do so -- but the kind of photos you've posted here
are quite satisfactory. ¡Más, por favor!

If you can provide more specific information on Beisbolito -- and on the other games, which we hope to see --
that would be hugely appreciated. Name of the manufacturer or publisher, and the year the game was made?

We look forward to more photos of more games! ¡Gracias una vez más!

[Roland 49]

Hello, you tell me that you dress the photos well, now you have 2 photos of 3 different covers of 'Beisbolito' and 2 different boards, I inform you that this game had several editions for example: the sixth edition is from 1957, write when you receive them , and I am preparing others.

[Roland 49]

Hello Jason, due to the publication of Babe Ruth's book from 1920, I will give you some information, in which interviews appear, Babe talks about his childhood when he was orphaned at 7 years old, when he was interned in an asylum, he describes many things, too Opinions about Babe appear, by Ty Cobb and many of the celebrities of that time until 1920, it is a very interesting book and at the same time a rarity, in the many years that I have been a collector I have only seen 2 copies, now I send you photos If you want, I'll send you more photos and I'll keep telling you. Are you interested? Regards.

[Roland 49]

Jason, there are also articles in magazines and newspapers in the USA that mention Ruth's visit to the island, and the great organizer of this visit Abel Linares, for his part Babe replies in a letter that he is eager to get to Cuba and comments on it. enthusiasm of the Cubans, the book also shows photos, there is a photo that is the Ruthermometer, a thermometer, it is a very interesting book, now you have a photo of the book Los 9 Ceros en Cuba y El Monarca, if you want I'll continue.

[Roland 49]

Jason now gives you a photo of something that I think you have not seen, the letter that Babe sends to Abel Linares accepting his visit. Greetings.

[Butch7999]

¡Hola, Roland! Sorry to report, no e-mails -- repeat, no e-mails -- have been received from you.
You can try e-mailing photos to us again, or you can send us a PM (private message) through Net54,
or you can just continue posting game pictures here in the Net54 forum (although we're sure
the other guys participating in this thread are sick of the boardgame part of this discussion!).
The bigger the photos the better, although anything you post is appreciated!

[Roland 49]

Now I send you photos of the game "Baseball with Cards" and its components, I will always write you here, when you receive this you let me know to send you more, greetings.

[Butch7999]

Hola, Roland -- great! ¡Gracias! Keep 'em coming.
Do you know the year(s) Beisbolito and BaseBall Con Cartas were made?

[Roland 49]

In a previous message I told you that "Baseball" had several editions, for example the 6th edition was in 1957, that is, The 1st edition appeared maybe 4 or 5 years before, if I find more information I will inform you, later I will look for some more, a few years ago looking for other things I found in a closet 3 boxes with games from the 50s all new and complete, They had never been used, a box did not attract our attention because it had an electrical cable, when I connect it I see that it lights a light bulb that it had inside and on top it had a snowy glass and a few leaves with land and plays drawn to put on top of the glass, something curious. Greetings.

[Roland 49]

Hello, in the photo we see 2 Lloyd cards, from the 2nd series of "Aguilitas" the one on the right has a printing error, many years ago it was mine and I put it in one of my albums above the card next to the Lloyd who is stuck, that is, above Oscar Charleston with the idea of ​​comparing the good one with the one that has a printing error, perhaps one of this thread currently has it. Yes or no?

[Roland 49]

Hello, now I send you images of different boxes of Parcheesi games and different cubes, the dice and the board also change the chips, now I ask you these images that I have sent you on several occasions, what do you do with them, do you use them on the page of games? Greetings.

[Roland 49]

Hello, they asked me if they wanted to see the photo of Ty Cobb in the "Tabacos Larrañaga" factory in Havana in 1910, I show them a fragment of the photo.

[Butch7999]

¡Gracias, Roland! We maintain a library of more than 10,000 photo references of the roughly 1,500 different games we've catalogued,
games made from the 1860s to today -- games made in the USA, Canada, Cuba, Mexico, Japan, England...
If we get enough photos of enough games made in Cuba, we may eventually get around to doing an article, a "photo essay,"
about those games at our website. But mainly we accumulate game photos just for our own reference -- we're too dim to remember
what every one of those 1,500+ games looks like just from the game's name or title! And often the photos are useful in answering
questions that members or visitors post to our own Forum.

[Roland 49]

Responding, days ago when I showed the 2 Lloyd cards, I did it to show a printing error, but at no time did I express that I had pasted it on the Charleston card, I put it above for a photo, you understood something else, now you There are photos of the album as they are pasted and the one from the other day.

[Roland 49]

Now I show you some loose cards I see the 2 different Lloyd's Charleston and I send you the hit in the album again, the 2 Charleston note that the release is less centered than the album.

[Roland 49]

Jason, show me two very interesting issues, they are very rare, in the 80s a large number of weeklies were published, the most interesting and most important was according to Wenceslao Galvez in his 1889 book, the weekly El Sport, now I am sending you a Year 1 photo # 1, dated October 6, 1885.

[Roland 49]

Now I read what you explain to me about the games page, it is interesting, I will continue to send you some photos of games, but look when you publish the photos you must put my name: Rolando Sánchez and also say that it is courtesy of me, Since the photos that appear in my catalogs are registered in the author's registry and the total or partial reproduction of them is prohibited, and perhaps some image that this one could send you in any of them, okay? But don't worry, for my part I agree that you do a good job of the games in Cuba. I send you photos of the game that you sent me a photo of the second edition of the year 1947, but the first was in 1946, when you receive this message you answer me Greetings.

[Butch7999]

¡Excelente, Roland! And yes, if we display on our website or Forum any of the photos you've posted, we will
of course give you credit and thanks. Most of the photos we use are either our own or "public domain," but for
photos (or information) provided to us by museums or through the special contributions of other collectors,
we do always make an effort to credit the source.

By the way, regarding ¡Play Ball! creator Zerpa -- we're unfamiliar with the name. Was he "just" a game designer,
or did he have some other merit -- player, coach, team executive? -- in Cuban baseball?

[Roland 49]

Buth, Zerpa, according to the reports, is the creator of the game and specifies that he is "Public Accountant" after that information, the registry numbers etc. Now you have the photos of the open game box folders and you can see both, the one from 1946 and 1947. When you see them, you will respond to me.

[Roland 49]

Now you will see Monte Irvin in my house, in one of his visits in 2004, seeing some of his postcards and the album of the collection "El Indio" he did not know them.

[aljurgela]

Here is one of my El Indio cards.

[Roland 49]

Hi Al, I see that you have a good Irvin card, none has appeared for a long time, what you are looking for take note, if something appears I will inform you. Al, I'm not V ..... C .... but we've known each other for more than 30 years, but V ..... is not the name you say. Greetings.

[Roland 49]

Hello, now I show you a photo of the player Ernesto Morillas in my house, with a color photo signed by all the Cienfuegos players in 1949, in which Morillas appears as a member of the team, he also played in Havana, the International League from Florida, etc, he was a great friend of mine, and on several occasions he visited me and we talked about the time when he was a player, for my part I always asked him questions and told me baseball anecdotes in those years, several years ago Morillas he died in Havana.

[Roland 49]

Now I answer questions that they asked me in my email and they want me to answer them through this thread. Yes, the pictcher "Ernesto Morillas" has several cards in the Cuban collections, they all appear in my catalog, Montiel 46-47, Los Campeones HC 1948, Victoria Collections, O. Diaz 1949, "Acebo", some of great rarity, now you will see the rarest, Ort. Diaz, and H.C. 1948, do any of those who see this thread have them? Very rare.

[Roland 49]

Now I show you from the collection "Cigars Cabañas 1909" the original box where the cards came, made in "Pan de Oro" and were printed on lithographic stone, which was used at that time, and 3 cards, one for each team.

[Roland 49]

Butch, you will see the photo of the game "Baseball with Cards" this game is made up of 104 cards, 52 for the Picher and 52 for the batter, in the photo you will see boxes of different colors since the buyer chose the color according to his team, they go the instructions and the game table, when you receive the message you let me know. Greetings.

[Butch7999]

¡Maravilloso, Roland! Gracias de nuevo.
We do wish the picture was larger, but perhaps we ask too much when you have already been so helpful.
We do ask again, though -- can you tell us the manufacturer or publisher of Baraja Pelotera, and the year(s)
it was made?

[Roland 49]

Butch, now I am sending you the game diagram of the "Ball Deck" the author is Roger J. Vega, they have several patent numbers, some from 1948 and in other boxes 1949, you also have a propaganda, those photos I threw with the phone camera, but they are very large almost 2M and on other occasions I have sent them and they do not come out so I reduce their size, I have more things separated for you. You let me know when you see this.

[Roland 49]

Buth, ahora veras "La Baraja Deportiva" la componen 40 cartas. La conoces?

[Roland 49]

Travis, you sent me the photo of Carlos Royer from the Romeo y Julieta collection, all those cards I had in my hands and I scanned them in 2014 when they appeared, at 4 o'clock on the almendarea you have one, Pedroso's was bought by a good friend mine who lives in Miami, although I do not know if he still has it and I have the other two, those are the 4 known ones are a rarity, years ago I did research and draw my conclusions, which I will explain to you little by little, what if It is true that they are original and were printed in 1922 for the Romeo and Juliet Sports album, which had a boxing section and a baseball section, as I have seen it was prepared for a large number of baseball cards, that collection was prepared for It was released in 1911, maybe it was released or maybe not, because they were waiting for the printing of the album, which for reasons that I do not know, did not come out at that time, Pedroso's card by mistake says 1915, but it is from 1911, since it has the number of games played 191 1, there are interesting things that I investigated in La Compañía Litografica de La Habana, which was the one that printed everything related to the Tobacco Factories, now I took a photo of the album and I put cards from the 1922 series on top, in a while I am going to take other photos and I will continue the explanation, you will have a photo of the scan I did in 2014 with the 4 cards and another with some in the album, if you can when you see this message, let me know. Greetings.

[Roland 49]

Butch, en Cuba ese juego con los dados y el cubo de cuero se llama "Cubilete" es un juego muy antiguo lo pueden jugar 2 personas o mas, lo conoces? Te va una imagen. Yo lo jugué hace mucho tiempo.

[tlwise12]

Thanks for the notes on the Romeo cards! Looking forward to learning some more about them!

Thanks
Travis

[Roland 49]

Butch, los dados de la foto con los emblemas de los equipos, y las últimas que te envié fue para que te dieras cuenta del tipo de juego, el cubilete, y el cubo del Almendares donde se introducen los dados y se revuelven se tiran etc. Hay otros que en vez de tener el rey y la reina solo tienen la letra K y la Q, pero todo es el mismo juego, me entendiste?

[Butch7999]

Hola Roland, nos disculpamos de nuevo por nuestro torpe español computarizado y cualquier confusión como resultado.

Sí, entendimos que hay muchos conjuntos y variaciones diferentes de Cubilete, fabricados a lo largo de muchos años
por muchas empresas diferentes. Nos preguntábamos si conocías al fabricante y el año del set que mostraste.
Ese tipo de información es importante para nuestra identificación de fotos en nuestros archivos y para nuestra
catalogación de todos los juegos de mesa y juegos de cartas que se han producido con un tema de béisbol
(alrededor de 2.000 desde 1867). Sabemos muy bien que esa información no siempre está disponible u obtenible.

¡Seguimos agradecidos por toda la información que ha proporcionado hasta ahora y esperamos que haya más por delante!