Looking for your Advice on Possible Cross Grade/Bump for 1952 Topps

[Canofcorn]

I acquired this '52 Campanella and it's possibly the nicest 3.5 I've ever seen. This card has 4 sharp corners, gorgeous color, and a nice clean back. The surface wrinkles are on the front of the card and is near his ear - not easy to detect. In fact, you pretty much need to hold the card at an angle under strong light. this card actually has the qualities of a near mint card. I was told by a fellow Net54 collector to buy the card, not the holder it's in. If I submit to PSA, do I leave it in the case? Or just call it a day and appreciate for what it is?

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[KCRfan1]

That looks like a really nice card! The advice given is spot on, buy the card not the holder. So, unless you are a PSA collector, are in to the grades, or wanting to flip the card, personally I leave the card as is. I can't give you any advice or direction about submitting, as I generally buy ungraded or will crack out graded cards. Assuming you got the card for a good price, congratulations. Well bought!

[Canofcorn]

...paid about the price of a 4. But I really liked the card.
I know one day I will flip it to buy something else, which his why I was even considering the cross. That's probably the only way I would turn a small profit - is if it got bumped. But at the end of the day, it's a hobby and I should be able to break even - and in the meantime enjoy it for what it is. Thanks!

[Zach Wheat]

Agreed that is one of the nicest 3.5s I have seen.....and agree with the advice given you. I typically dont get cards graded...but will buy graded cards of course. It would be nice to have scans of the back prior to making that decision....is the back clean?

If you buy it, it would a nice addition to your collection.

[Canofcorn]

Back looks good, and I already bought it! Thanks for the input! I think i will keep it as is.

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[ALR-bishop]

Another reason to look at the back is that there are two versions of this card. On the scarcer version, the R in major on the back is missing or partially missing along with a portion of the red line. It is just a print defect, but was listed as a variant in the Topps Super set that sold for $150,000 in the H &S auction awhile back. It has little hobby recognition though and would command a premium only for OCD master type collectors..

I have the set and all but 2 are ungraded, so it is easy to access in sheets in binders. I prefer ungraded as a collector. Agree with the others that your motive in obtaining it would drive the grading question

Edited-- you have the scarce back

[ALR-bishop]

Here is a link to the Super Set checklist, including the two Campenelas

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV...PyTdCJOnXlNms-

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

Here is a link to the Super Set checklist, including the two Campenelas

http://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0LEV...PyTdCJOnXlNms-

Actually, this is one argument for getting cards graded. Not that i care much about grading currently, but i am concerned about others selling my cards at a later date and not realizing the distinctions between potential valuable variations......like the Campos Red/Black star.

Nice pick up then....clean back.

Z

[ALR-bishop]

The Campos black star is recognized by SCD and PSA and Becketts, and carries a large premium. Another version of the Campos has a partially missing front border, but neither it nor the House yellow tiger in it 's many permutations have been formally recognized by the above entities. Still they carry a premium because master collector types think they may eventually get recognized and their value may soar higher

A print defect like the one on the Campanela back is not as likely to ever get formal hobby recognition, but the Campos black star, the 57 Bakep and 58 Herrer are also print defects and yet have been recognized,

In any event it is very nice looking card, Canofcorn

[swarmee]

I would crack it out and send it in, expecting a 5. Great looking card.

[Canofcorn]

And this is exactly why I come to these boards. A lot of experience and great input. If I ever crack and grade I will let you know the results!

[pokerplyr80]

I recently tried to cross a couple of sgc and bvg cards to psa without cracking them out myself. I had no luck and am, of course, out the grading fees.

Obviously there are risks cracking out yourself, damaging the card in the process, or still not getting the grade you want and having to re-submit to the original TPG. I think if there are surface wrinkles best case scenario would be a PSA 4. For me that would not be worth the trouble and grading fees, and I would keep the card as is. Just my opinion.

I know nothing about the variation discussed. Obviously that could change everything if it in fact commands a large premium.

[pclpads]

Be happy with it's current grade and slab. If you crack and sub raw to PSA, you run the risk of getting an EOT / ALT / Auth. Then you have lost your orig. investment. With the defects noted, it is unlikely PSA would give it a higher grade. With their newer, tighter standards, they might even go lower. That said, it is a very nice card of Campy.

[Zach Wheat]

Originally Posted by pclpads

Be happy with it's current grade and slab. If you crack and sub raw to PSA, you run the risk of getting an EOT / ALT / Auth. Then you have lost your orig. investment. With the defects noted, it is unlikely PSA would give it a higher grade. With their newer, tighter standards, they might even go lower. That said, it is a very nice card of Campy.

Can you give more detail on your comment above? Just curious...thanks.

z