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Old 11-27-2018, 04:55 PM
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Default Baines Shield Bloomer

Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:33 AM
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Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.
Love this one Noel! Great Find.... I would probably ask Paul. Not sure on the dates, but I do believe that I have seen a different version.
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:17 PM
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Thanks for the response Al and good call. I will update if/when i get a response from Paul.
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Dont see this one for sale very often and when you do they are expensive--Can anyone pinpoint the date of issue? I believe he has an earlier one as well.
OK, based on the back I'd say it's from around 1905 but BUT it could be a 1912 card. he was at Derby for two spells, before 1907 and after 1910. The North Parade address is the middle era address for Baines. It is not from the 1890s, that's clear, by the back, so I'd bet on 1905, or a couple of years earlier. So, it's not the rookie for Bloomer but it is probably one of the rarest cards of Bloomer, much rarer than his earlier cigarette cards.

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Default Mr Bloomer

Thanks for the help and kind words--I did hear back from Paul and as expected I dont think there is anything new here. And thanks Samosa I think there is a way to ballpark these with the right research and agreed it is likely early 1900's (1902-1905).

"Unfortunately there is no real way to date Baines shields. No real records were kept and they were issued in such huge numbers (though very few survived). The only way to try and give them a date would be to try and find a similar card featuring different players and hope to pinpoint a date linked to the clubs they played for at that time."

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By the time I saw this it was already outside my budget. Nice pick up!!!
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