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Old 01-31-2015, 12:23 AM
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Default Ruth and Gehrig Balls - Authentic?

I was presented the following baseballs for less than $7500/each. I was told they came with Halper COAs. I have received a copy of one, but not the other. Would love to hear opinions/comments about whether folks on this forum believe these signatures to be legit.

Of note, I've done some research and I'm not sure the COA provided is authentic, which then of course brings into question the authenticity of the balls. One, I haven't seen/found other Halper COA/LOA like this one. Two, of the Halper COAs that I've seen, he has signed all of them, but this one is not. Finally, the letterhead indicates it's from Halper and Bros., Inc. The company that I believe Halper worked for was Halper and Sons (see http://njjewishnews.com/njjn.com/121...milyMarks.html)

I would not pretend to be an expert on Halper memorabilia, so I don't know if I'm just paranoid or being objective with regard authenticity of the material presented.

Thank you in advance for your feedback/assistance.
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:50 AM
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Old 01-31-2015, 12:59 AM
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Old 01-31-2015, 01:02 AM
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Yes, I'm serious. Had no idea they were posted on that auction.
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Old 01-31-2015, 05:09 AM
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Perhaps some day one of their signers will either get immunity to turn them in, or, being dispicable characters, simply get pissed at their boss over something trivial, and turn them in.

Maybe we could all pitch in and put a bounty on the ringleader? I bet $5000 would get an employee's attention.
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Just to inform the OP, all of us here know this, the Florida forgery ring is not connected to CC as far as I can tell.
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Just to inform the OP, all of us here know this, the Florida forgery ring is not connected to CC as far as I can tell.
Wait, you know the people in this ring and/or know who they're connected to? I'm not sure what to say to that. The ring is not connected to CC...Who is CC?
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Wait, you know the people in this ring and/or know who they're connected to? I'm not sure what to say to that. The ring is not connected to CC...Who is CC?
This is CC (Coach's Corner). Also known as Roach's Corner Auctions.

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Old 01-31-2015, 08:52 PM
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Ok, not connected directly, but it seemed as though from the comments about the Ruth, Gehrig, Johnson balls that they are connected at least indirectly. Correct?
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Wait, you know the people in this ring and/or know who they're connected to? I'm not sure what to say to that. The ring is not connected to CC...Who is CC?
Well, I admit it's just a dream…and a dream to protect idiots who have money burning a hole in their pocket at that. So never mind.
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Well, I admit it's just a dream…and a dream to protect idiots who have money burning a hole in their pocket at that. So never mind.
Exactly, Scott.

I learned a long time ago you can't protect people from themselves.
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Perhaps some day one of their signers will either get immunity to turn them in, or, being dispicable characters, simply get pissed at their boss over something trivial, and turn them in.

Maybe we could all pitch in and put a bounty on the ringleader? I bet $5000 would get an employee's attention.
I would assume that this "signer" (or signers) is making a decent living doing what he does. If he outs his employer he's not only brought attention to himself but would then be out of a job. Then he would have to go into the real world and find a job

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Most of the fishermen hang around for a long time, generally with long protests. But they also generally feign anger, which you have not. Welcome.
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My favorite subject 'the Coach'.

If you are serious about learning about autographs; a must is to own this book:

I will through four separate thread additions (because I can't figure out how to manage the scans in the proper order) will show you items from the last handful (that's right, five months) of Coach's Corner Sports Auctions with the final prices realized which in itself tell you what you need to know about this company.

These people have been doing this for over 300 auctions.

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I don't think anyone here doubts that coaches corner sells fakes.
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Oh Leon...we have an idiot at the gates...would like to know his name before engaging! Gracias...M@tt McC@rthy


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