Issue with lot a lot description - What is a "loose" spine?

[Bugsy]

I won a program in a recent auction. This is how they described it:

"Historic program has condition issues, including slight chipping, a loose spine and general wear. This still displays reasonably well, however."

What should I have expected to receive? My assumption was that the spine wasn't great. Probably loose, maybe a partial split on the spine or detached cover. This is what I received. There is no spine anymore. Every page is split.

Were my expectations wrong or did the house not give this an accurate write-up?

Thanks.

Chris

[timn1]

I would have read "loose spine" exactly as you did, Chris. Not as "every page separated"

[packs]

Yeah, loose spine to me indicates that the program is still in tact. An accurate description would have said the pages had separated from the spine.

[jim]

from whom did you purchase this?
jim

[Steve D]

I agree with the previous responses.

To me, it should have been described as either "spine separated" or "spine detached", at the minimum.

Steve

[Fballguy]

Curious if there were pictures in the auction listing? Did it appear intact?

[iwantitiwinit]

No doubt you're right but when someone cites, "has condition issues", my expectations would be low. If I hadn't paid too much I'd just let it go.

[drcy]

Originally Posted by iwantitiwinit

No doubt you're right but when someone cites, "has condition issues", my expectations would be low. If I hadn't paid too much I'd just let it go.

Agreed. More specifically, it says "has condition issues, including .... "

However, I agree that loose pages is more than a loose spine.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

A loose spine, in book collecting, has a very specific meaning, a bunch of unattached pages ain't it.

[Bugsy]

Here is the auction photo.

[Bugsy]

And the interior.

You can see the staples from the spine in this photo, so I assumed the cover was loose. I would not have even minded if it had just been the cover that had been split or that the pages were detached from the staples, but every single page with the exception of the center page is split.

[JollyElm]

Pure deception. That photo appears to be a used, but perfectly intact, item. You should be pissed.

[Jobu]

+1

That is most definitely NOT a loose spine. A loose spine is a bound item that has a little play along the binding. This is no longer a bound item.

Unlike my women, I do not like my book spines to be loose.

Originally Posted by JollyElm

Pure deception. That photo appears to be a used, but perfectly intact, item. You should be pissed.

[D. Bergin]

Fragile year for paper items. The tail end of the paper drive era after WWII had ended and lower quality high acid content paper was still in widespread use.

Is it possible the pages became separated in shipping?

[khkco4bls]

That's bs.....