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What is the cheapest thing we have seen in a good faked slab? I think its value exceeds this by a zero or 2, does it not?
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Whether a card is worth 1,000,000.00 or 1.00, it's still ok to try to learn, right?
The question was about the flip - because there have been several SGC incarnations. While I found a nice history thread of PSA flips, I could not find one (with pictures) that explained the subtle differences on SGC over the years. From what I understand and read here, there's four different flips but I seem to see subtle variations in font, as well. I'm a longtime collector but a novice to grading history. I come here to steal your smarts. Upfront and honest always - to a fault, I am. I use SGC (I was not far from both NJ offices) but have had maybe 50 cards graded and all since 2010. I collect mostly 1950s cards with an emphasis on Mickey Mantle, 1953 Bowman and recently, Red Hearts. All mid grade because of budget AND aesthetics. I buy by eye appeal and price, not grade. I could probably pay a little more now that I am older and have a job and all that but I stick tot the principals of my youth when it comes to the glorious hobby we share. |
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Honestly wasn't intended as a dig but more a question of how low have the reslabbers gone in dollar value with their fraud? I have not seen any good cheap fakes and honestly have not heard of any good fakes except on the mexican cartel cards. i think it is a problem but like many things these days i think the net makes the problem seem more pervasive than it is. But it is always best to check so I apologize if my comments seemed insensitive.
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I think it was a dig. A fair one, at that. I am in the wrong thread to boot! But I wanted advise from one of the best sources I have found - the Net54 community.
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I didn't take Glyns response as a dig either, more of a if they're faking this card in an authentic looking holder and flip we are really in trouble. I agree with his assessment.
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And I was just having some fun. It's a hobby for me, not a living. That's why I live in the midgrade world. There are some VG/EX that outshine 6 and 7s. I know, I have a few. My SGC 50/4 1953B Whitey Ford is stunning. I think, anyway...
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that is different
but i agree it is alarming in a different way.
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I remember, a year or so ago, seeing a 1952 Topps Mickey Mantle that was advertised as a fake in a PSA holder and under close scrutiny (as close as you can from a hi res scan, anyway) you just couldn't tell. The description said he made them himself and even the number - lifted from eBay auctions - would checkout if entered. Hologram right, clean sides and edges on case, and the card looked PERFECT - probably a cracked case and printed flip - but the thing was flawlessly made. (Yes, I've seen cheap versions - this had craftsmanship). Again, advertised as a forgery.
Went for just under a grand. These people should be fed to hungry pigs - buyer and seller. A small part of the reason why I have a hard time shelling out big bucks for nice cards despite an overwhelming desire to do so. Two of my favorites - Mickey and 53 Bowman Color - may be two of the leads in the hobby in reprints. Caveat emptor, indeed. |
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