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Old 08-15-2017, 07:09 PM
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I am sure you are right. I liked watching games, though, much more when the presumption was that your starter was going as deep as he could, when there weren't long delays between every pitch, when batters weren't intentionally trying to jack the pitch count, when there weren't 10 pitching changes a game, etc. Without looking it up I am guessing games are a half hour longer than they were in the 70s on average, if not longer.
Oh, I am by no means in favor of watching this happen. But it's probably optimal for winning.

IMO, they need the pitch clock like in the minors to help speed things up.(and ditch replay with the exception of plays at the plate and calls involving borders, like homers and fouls...etc)
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Oh, I am by no means in favor of watching this happen. But it's probably optimal for winning.

IMO, they need the pitch clock like in the minors to help speed things up.(and ditch replay with the exception of plays at the plate and calls involving borders, like homers and fouls...etc)
I think I would also be in favor of a maximum number of fouls until it counts as a K.
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I think I would also be in favor of a maximum number of fouls until it counts as a K.
Seriously?
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Sure, why not? You can't bunt foul on strike three. So why not speed the game up by saying you can't foul off more than, I don't know, five pitches? 10 pitch at bats. Move it along.
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Sure, why not? You can't bunt foul on strike three. So why not speed the game up by saying you can't foul off more than, I don't know, five pitches? 10 pitch at bats. Move it along.
10 pitch at bats and you're going to have 1-0 games, which will even further destroy baseball's fan base. It's not an apples-to-apples comparison, either. It is MUCH easier to make contact with a bunt, therefore you should be able to put the ball in play on 3 attempts or less. Fouling of a pitch with a full swing is a strategy for batters to stay alive while attempting one of the most difficult things in sports: hitting a baseball pitched by a MLB pitcher.

And people need to stop looking for ways to change the game in order to speed it up. The game isn't the problem. Advertising and money are. I'm sure back in the day they didn't have 3-4 minute commercial breaks every half inning. Plus, they already changed the game with the intentional walk rule, and games are still 5 minutes longer on average this year than last year.
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If you can't work a walk or put a ball in play within 10 pitches I have no problem calling you out. With an unlimited number, teams just use it as a way to jack up a pitcher's pitch count, and it's mostly boring and time consuming.
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If you can't work a walk or put a ball in play within 10 pitches I have no problem calling you out. With an unlimited number, teams just use it as a way to jack up a pitcher's pitch count, and it's mostly boring and time consuming.
If a foul ball didn't count as a "pitch", the strategy you describe would be less popular.

Any breaking ball that hits the ground before reaching or going by the catcher should not be counted as a pitch either and the pitcher who threw it should have to pay for the inevitable replacement ball.

Pitch counting devices should only go to 60 and then back to 1. Pitchers with maximum pitch counts of say 90, would then be able to stay in the game indefinitely.

Pitcher's gloves should have implanted microphones so that when they cover their lips in mound conferences with the catcher, we can hear what they are saying.

The strike zone above home plate should be made of glass. After each pitch if the glass is not broken by either the ball or the bat, it is a "ball". If it is broken, a new strike zone is employed. This would eliminate the need for three umpires and possibly four, if all the other call are made in New York, as if they were challenged.

When managerial wisdom reaches the point of not allowing the starting pitcher to face the leadoff man twice, the winning and losing pitchers shall be determined by spinning a roulette-type wheel that includes a slot for every pitcher on the roster. This should be done before the game, and the winning and losing pitchers would then be required to actually play in the game. The final score could be used to award the W and the L.

Irrelevant statistics of the past, such as complete games and shutouts, shall be expunged from all records. The pitchers of the future need to play in a safe zone without being intimidated by concepts they are unable to grasp.

And finally all players shall go to Cooperstown five years after they retire to pick up their participation trophies.
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