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Old 08-03-2017, 04:33 PM
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Default Andrelton Simmons second in WAR?

According to ESPN he is second in the league (and in all of baseball actually) in WAR behind only Altuve. He's having an OK year but not THAT great -- 11/39/.303/.352 OBP. So what is it about his other numbers that moves his WAR so high?
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:57 PM
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Defense. He's a platinum glove winner. I checked BR though and see he's 9th offensive WAR too. Hard to see it though from his stats.
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Old 08-03-2017, 04:58 PM
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I still can't believe the Braves gave him away...
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Old 08-03-2017, 05:04 PM
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According to ESPN he is second in the league (and in all of baseball actually) in WAR behind only Altuve. He's having an OK year but not THAT great -- 11/39/.303/.352 OBP. So what is it about his other numbers that moves his WAR so high?

Defense and the fact he plays a position in a league that is not loaded with a ton of other guys with offensive punch.

"Wins Above Replacement" appears to signify your value in relation to the position you play, and the average level player at that position............or something like that.

I do think it's rather dubious that he's ranked 9th in the league in Offensive WAR alone (according to Baseball Reference), leading people to think he's having a better offensive season then a ton of other players with far better stats then he has, simply because he plays a different position then they do.

I don't think he's having a better offensive season then Miguel Sano........or even Didi Gregorius, as his Offensive WAR number suggests.
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Old 08-03-2017, 06:16 PM
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As an Angels fan I honestly could care less about his offense because he is the best defensive SS in baseball. Anything else he does is extra to me.
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Old 08-03-2017, 09:37 PM
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Defensive value is still a little murky, but you guys should know by now an 800ops is alot more impressive in Anaheim than in NY bos Tex etc. Just look at trout, or beltre. It's not rocket science c'mon.
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I wouldn't use Baseball Reference or their convoluted WAR if I were you. The Fangraphs version seems to be the best in WAR per player and how that relates to team wins.

In fWAR Simba is 8th with 4.3 and has a 122 wRC+ and monstrous SS defense.
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Old 08-09-2017, 08:39 PM
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On ESPN he is now only a tenth of a point behind Altuve. That's insane. However they are calculating this should be looked at.
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Old 08-12-2017, 09:49 AM
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And now he is in first place. LOL.
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He's simply the best "Andrelton" in baseball history.
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