Mickey Mantle Autograph

[johnts1]

Just bought a Mantle signed ball, from a guy, on Ebay. Who has been on there, for 17 years, and has 100 rating. He said, he had gotten the ball signed in person, in 1990. The ball has no COA, but I am going to get it authenticated this weekend by PSA OR JSA.

Anyone on here know much about Mantle autographs? I attached a few pics.

Thank you!

[earlywynnfan]

There are about 100 better Mantle guys on here, but to me it looks slowly drawn. IMHO, I would have passed.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Isn't this you below?


http://live.autographmagazine.com/fo...age=1#comments

[earlywynnfan]

Kinda makes me disappointed I bothered replying to you.

[w7imel]

That ugly even for a forgery!

[Lordstan]

Well. Sorry to say but you bought either a fake Mantle or possibly the worst looking authentic one. Even if the story about the original owner getting it signed in person is true, you'll likely never be able to sell it again.

[johnts1]

Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

[johnts1]

Oh boy!!

[johnts1]

Oh,boy!!!! LOL. I've looked at two hundred Mantles.It's not that bad. I'll know tomorow.,for sure.

[johnts1]

Did I say something wrong Early?

[johnts1]

I got it cheap.I don't plan on selling it. I love it,actually. This guy's been on ebay 18 years He has a 100 percentile.Why,all of a sudden,would he start f@#king people??? I'm not gullible.I still think its real.I let you guys know tomorrow.

[Mr. Zipper]

Originally Posted by johnts1

Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

Are you - Johnts1 -- claiming you are not the same person named "John Spillane" or "Johnny Spacks" who posted the same ball on Autograph Magazine Live within a day of you posting here?

[Rookiemonster]

HAHAHAHA !!!! 🚨New favorite thread alert 🚨


You got some splaining to do !

[7nohitter]

"Stealth Account" Possibility!!

[Terrier8HOF]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...p2047675.l2557

this is cheap????

[RichardSimon]

Originally Posted by johnts1

Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

REALLY????????

[w7imel]

395 sold for priceThats cheap???????

[batsballsbases]

Originally Posted by johnts1

Yep.That looks like my ball.But that's not me.

Richard,
Kinda like O.J. and his shoes! Thats me in the picture but those arenot my shoes!

[w7imel]

Originally Posted by johnts1

I got it cheap.I don't plan on selling it. I love it,actually. This guy's been on ebay 18 years He has a 100 percentile.Why,all of a sudden,would he start f@#king people??? I'm not gullible.I still think its real.I let you guys know tomorrow.

What exactly is he going to let us know? Really confused after reading the 2 threads

[thetruthisoutthere]

Looks like it sold for $345.00 on Feb. 22nd.



http://www.ebay.com/itm/MICKEY-MANTL...p2047675.l2557

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by w7imel

What exactly is he going to let us know? Really confused after reading the 2 threads

I think he's going to get it certed by someone, then we'll be sorry because it will be real.

[earlywynnfan]

Originally Posted by johnts1

Did I say something wrong Early?

No, I just hate wasting my time with people who play games. You got all the answers you could possibly want on another site, but since you didn't like them, you come over here to play the same games.

I also don't like dealing with people who change their stories, but that's just me.

Ken

PS: Honestly, I think "It's not that bad" needs to be the new Mantle catchphrase!

[thetruthisoutthere]

At this point, the issue isn't about the authenticity of the autograph, but about the lies and deception.

[chaddurbin]

c'mon fellas they can't be the same person. the other guy goes by "johnny", while here we have "john". there's a 33% difference with the name, quit being so judgemental.

[thetruthisoutthere]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

c'mon fellas they can't be the same person. the other guy goes by "johnny", while here we have "john". there's a 33% difference with the name, quit being so judgemental.

That's funny!!!!!!!!!

[frankbmd]

Originally Posted by chaddurbin

c'mon fellas they can't be the same person. the other guy goes by "johnny", while here we have "john". there's a 33% difference with the name, quit being so judgemental.

The next thread will be hosted by Juan.

[Michael B]

Originally Posted by frankbmd

The next thread will be hosted by Juan.

Valdez? Will his avatar include a burro with two bags of coffee beans slung across the back?

[TUM301]

Another possibility, "Jon" as in you know who that drove a certain LeBaron convertible.

[Stampsfan]

Originally Posted by TUM301

Another possibility, "Jon" as in you know who that drove a certain LeBaron convertible.

Love the Seinfeld reference. Very clever.

[oucats02]

Everybody's talkin' at me...I can't hear a word they're sayin'...just drivin' around in Jon Voight's car...

[johnts1]

My Mantle signed ball, has been Authenticated!!!! Finally!!!!!

[Lordstan]

Ok. One last time.... Just because PSA certed it, doesn't mean it's real. You paid them for their opinion, just like the many opinions you got here and autograph live. I am not bashing them, I just hate it when people say their auto is real because they have a cert.

[mighty bombjack]

Good for you

[johnts1]

You hate it when people deem something real??? Because it was certed???? Never said, that.Thought it was real,even before I had it authenticated,by PSA.

My seller said,he got it signed in person. At a card show,in 1990.I looked up the card show.It corroborated his story that mickey was there at a signing. He's been an EBayer for 18 years. A feedback of 100%. Guaranteed my money back, if it failed the auto test. He has tons of highend stuff, Mantle DiMaggio,Gehrig, on ebay. And finally, PSA authenticated it. I have a good feeling,its real.

Prove to me,your stuff is real????? How do you convince people,that your stuff is real???



How do you deem your collection real.???? Most of it,is PSA Certified.

[Lordstan]

Originally Posted by johnts1

You hate it when people deem something real??? Because it was certed???? Never said, that.Thought it was real,even before I had it authenticated,by PSA.

My seller said,he got it signed in person. At a card show,in 1990.I looked up the card show.It corroborated his story that mickey was there at a signing. He's been an EBayer for 18 years. A feedback of 100%. Guaranteed my money back, if it failed the auto test. He has tons of highend stuff, Mantle DiMaggio,Gehrig, on ebay. And finally, PSA authenticated it. I have a good feeling,its real.

Prove to me,your stuff is real????? How do you convince people,that your stuff is real???



How do you deem your collection real.???? Most of it,is PSA Certified.

NO. I said I hate it when someone makes the definitive statement that their item is real because they have a cert. The TPAs provide an opinion and that is all. It is not a guarantee. It is their opinion that this auto is real, but their opinion is not perfect. Nobody's opinion is perfect. The various TPAs, including PSA, have certed many fake autos. This is a matter of fact and examples of this are public record and are not just my opinion.

Stating that PSA thinks your ball is authentic is factually correct. Stating you believe the sellers story and your opinion is that it's authentic is also correct. Stating your auto IS real is factually not correct. The only way to prove it to yourself that the auto is real is to have seen it signed yourself.

I don't have to prove to you or anyone else my stuff is authentic. I don't collect to impress other people. If someone doesn't wish to believe that my stuff is real, so what? Almost none of my stuff is certified by anyone as I don't need to pay someone to give me their opinion that stuff I saw signed in front of me is real. The stuff that I didn't see signed I either feel comfortable in my own knowledge base, 35 yrs of collecting in the making, or I have bought from dealers I know for quite a while and trust their expertise.
I have only sent 2 items to any TPA ever and they were both done right before I sold the items to maximize the sale amount. The only items in my collection that are certed came that way and, for the most part, I would've rather had them without it as it would've saved me some money.

BTW, I never said the ball was definitely fake. I said it was either fake or the worst looking authentic Mantle ball I had seen in a while. Having a PSA letter does not change my opinion and I doubt changes anyone else's here either. Its' your ball and I hope you enjoy it.