Memory Lane Gehrig expectation vs reality

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Snowman

I won this 33 Goudey Gehrig from Memory Lane last month. To say the card was misrepresented would be an understatement. Here's a couple of side-by-sides showing the auction photos vs how they look in hand. And yes, I fully realize that it was in a PSA 1 holder. But the problem nowadays is that PSA's grading is all over the place, and they regularly put VG cards into PSA 1 holders, and this is a brand new cert number, graded within the past few months. So there was reason to believe that the flaws on the card were as seen and described in the listing. It sold for 150% of what an average PSA 1 goes for because of it too ($3750 vs $2500).

Item description from the listing reads as follows:



This is starting to become a pretty big problem, in my opinion. It's always been this way to some degree, but I feel as though it's gotten worse lately. Numerous auction houses are either intentionally hiding major flaws or are exhibiting extreme negligence in their omissions and scans. Say what you will about how annoying the eBay Authenticity Guarantee program is, they at least provide a layer of protection against stuff like this happening. They will reject cards that exhibit major flaws that are not disclosed or shown in the listings.

I reached out to them this morning and sent them these images. We'll see how they respond. Needless to say, I wasn't happy.

There is no question the scan ML used was misleading as it hides the very heavy creases. The person responsible for the description should have mentioned heavy wrinkles IF they were looking at the card AND the scan when writing the description. Possible this was innocent oversight and it is not that expensive of a card that a whole lot of attention was going to be given to it.

I think your mistake was assuming with PSA grading overly harsh, that it had a bump. From what I have been told, ML is on the short list of favorites at PSA and their stuff is not going to get the same harsh grading the rest of us experience.

Also if this purchase was made on eBay and the same misleading scan was used, the card would have passed authentication. If the seller was an All Sales Final seller, you would have no recourse. You will have a better chance getting ML to refund you than you would had this been purchased on eBay.

[doug.goodman]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I think your mistake was assuming with PSA grading overly harsh, that it had a bump. From what I have been told, ML is on the short list of favorites at PSA and their stuff is not going to get the same harsh grading the rest of us experience.

I think your mistake is thinking that a card that has no creases mentioned in the description, and no creases show in the pictures, is allowed to have creases.

Another mistake of yours evidently is to feel that it's ok for certain clients to get better opinions from the opinion sellers than other clients.

[tjisonline]

With auction houses, there’s a level of expectation that you’re allowed to have by not using more popular platforms such as eBay. Buyers are paying a 20% premium. Least the auction houses can do is provide accurate descriptions. Additionally, this Lou Gehrig card appears blurry in the areas where the creases are. If the creases were disclosed like in some of their other listings, this card would have sold for less as some buyers would have stayed away.

Originally Posted by doug.goodman

I think your mistake is thinking that a card that has no creases mentioned in the description, and no creases show in the pictures, is allowed to have creases.

Another mistake of yours evidently is to feel that it's ok for certain clients to get better opinions from the opinion sellers than other clients.