Help with identification - Williams and Joe D

[loubrown]

Wondering what these are. They are the size of 50's picture pack photos. Anyone familiar with these?

[Leon]

Are they picture pack photos?

That is what they look like but I don't know what they are....

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[Hankphenom]

Whatever they are, they're really sharp!

[jcmtiger]

1934 goody

[jingram058]

Whatever they are, they are great looking. The Williams looks like what became his 1941 Play Ball.

[sb1]

They look like George Burke photos, however they could be modern made and not originals, hard to tell from the scans.

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Originally Posted by sb1

They look like George Burke photos, however they could be modern made and not originals, hard to tell from the scans.

Yes, and also eerily reminiscent of 1939 Play Balls. In fact, the Gehringer appears to be the same image used in the set. The Teddy is a much-used image, and we've certainly seen the DiMaggio shot over the years as well.

They definitely appear more modern to me. Stock looks newer and thinner than what Burke used in the late 1930's and there appears to be a graininess issue with the clarity. Anything on the backs?

Perhaps early George Brace reprints? If player names are hand-printed at the tops on the back, I'll certainly recognize if they originated from Brace.

[sb1]

George Burke images were used for the Play Ball sets and several other issues in the 1930's.

[loubrown]

Originally Posted by BillyCoxDodgers3B

Yes, and also eerily reminiscent of 1939 Play Balls. In fact, the Gehringer appears to be the same image used in the set. The Teddy is a much-used image, and we've certainly seen the DiMaggio shot over the years as well.

They definitely appear more modern to me. Stock looks newer and thinner than what Burke used in the late 1930's and there appears to be a graininess issue with the clarity. Anything on the backs?

Perhaps early George Brace reprints? If player names are hand-printed at the tops on the back, I'll certainly recognize if they originated from Brace.

I'm not saying for certain that they are not newer. The backs are creamy looking. Paper stock is fairly thin. Definitely has the look of a 39 PB. Williams image is a little grainy. The collection that they came in leads me to believe that they are not modern. Definitely not modern as in 80's or up. The range of the collection was 1906 to 1970's. And the level of obscure stuff in this collection (15 M101 Herpolsheimer backs was probably the biggest schocker) was unreal. I'll keep looking for info.
Were there picture packs that would include these three?

[BillyCoxDodgers3B]

Lou,

My fault for not being clearer. I meant they appeared more modern than 1939, that's all.

Wish I could help more.

[JollyElm]

The one thing we can all absolutely, positively, undoubtably agree on is that the card on the far right is a 1968 Topps Rod Carew!!

Oh, crud...but it could possibly be a 1968 Milton Bradley Rod Carew.

Uh, oh, sorta painted myself into a corner there.

(Pretend this post never happened.)

[Lobo Aullando]

Have you put them under a black light? That could help narrow down the age.

[dantradescards]

Originally Posted by jcmtiger

1934 goody

Edit: My bad, I meant '39 Goudey.

The '34 Goudey in my collection have wide pen style facsimile signatures on the front.