Same cert #, DIFFERENT flips and cards (52 Topps Mantle)

[Ksquared]

I don't think the flip looks right for two reasons:

1- the word "topps" in 1952 topps doesn't line up over the name like Matt's card. All other examples i've looked at on VCP and ebay line up like Matt's card.

2- i always scan the bar code on cards that I have questions about. Take a bar code scanner app and scan Matt's card. You'll get a reading back that matches his cert#. Scan the other card and you get a string of numbers that don't match.

I don't think it's real.

Jim

[team-of-rivals]

Originally Posted by Ksquared

I don't think the flip looks right for two reasons:

1- the word "topps" in 1952 topps doesn't line up over the name like Matt's card. All other examples i've looked at on VCP and ebay line up like Matt's card.

2- i always scan the bar code on cards that I have questions about. Take a bar code scanner app and scan Matt's card. You'll get a reading back that matches his cert#. Scan the other card and you get a string of numbers that don't match.

I don't think it's real.

Jim

+1

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Ksquared

I don't think the flip looks right for two reasons:

1- the word "topps" in 1952 topps doesn't line up over the name like Matt's card. All other examples i've looked at on VCP and ebay line up like Matt's card.

2- i always scan the bar code on cards that I have questions about. Take a bar code scanner app and scan Matt's card. You'll get a reading back that matches his cert#. Scan the other card and you get a string of numbers that don't match.

I don't think it's real.

Jim

What happens if you scan the card in his first auction?

[Ksquared]

that flip looks better to me when I look at the font and lettering and spacing. But when I scan the bar code, i don't get a match. I scanned it a few times but didn't get a match.

[Peter_Spaeth]

Some of these must be centered? Admit I haven't checked them all. But it seems a bit ambitious to say this 4, with all that corner wear, is a 20-25K card now.

Latest Auction Prices for: PSA 4 - Average Price: $13,491.83


4/27/14 eBay Auction | Image just_collect c***4 31 $15,585.00
12/22/13 eBay Auction | Image sltnofswatcolecter u***r 25 $13,000.00
11/16/13 Goodwin Image 9 $11,890.50
3/3/13 eBay Image calembeeandme f***h 1 $10,300.00
1/1/13 eBay Image memorylaneinc c***a Best Offer $12,000.00
12/25/12 eBay Image outtasite22 a***b 15 $7,100.00
12/13/12 eBay Image sammyweng a***a 28 $9,789.89
11/19/12 eBay Image 1bostonsports s***t BIN $10,255.00
11/18/12 Goldin Image 10 $12,973.40
10/30/12 eBay Image blipchop t***c 11 $8,099.99
9/3/12 eBay Image prewarcardcollector w***m 48 $11,700.00
7/27/12 Greg Bussineau Image 13 $10,680.00
5/20/12 SCP Auctions Image 13 $11,306.40
5/13/12 REA Image 20 $10,072.50
4/15/12 eBay Image mlbfan07 b***b 56 $13,050.00
4/15/12 eBay Image wchappell s***r BIN $13,250.00
4/12/12 eBay Image yooper! i***e Best Offer $10,600.00
2/23/12 eBay Image bordinchick 3***v 40 $11,400.00
1/29/12 eBay Image antiquesandmore100 n***n 2 $10,256.60
12/3/11 eBay Image yooper! c***s Best Offer $12,500.00
10/17/11 eBay Image tbh39 1***0 Best Offer $13,000.00
8/28/11 eBay Image 7983christopher p***2 Best Offer $8,900.00
6/24/11 eBay Image auctionfvr i***k 24 $10,000.50
6/8/11 eBay Image tomh22 b***0 Best Offer $9,000.00
5/1/11 eBay Image nolifecollector k***l 23 $9,867.67

[MattyC]

Peter, quoting dated auction data is misleading. VCP is a great guide but it's still in the past. If you bid 13k for the next dead-centered 4 with a good image, you will lose the card. Take my advice or don't, it's all good. If we are talking a legit seller with a dead centered card that has no central image issues and standard corner wear, I'm bidding hard and I know three other buddies who also are-- north of 17 for sure.

The last 4 jumped up a good bit, hit 15.5, and was centered way high with tilt. Perfect centering takes it to baseline 17k, and from there it's just competition so who knows. Just my two cents and I have no crystal ball; would love to buy several for 13k and hold them.