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Old 11-02-2018, 05:55 PM
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Default 1983 Topps Boxes - Crack or Leave

Iíve been picking up some unopened packs and boxes recently. 83 Topps was my favorite set as a kid. I have some BBCE wax boxes that are tempting me. It would be really fun and nostalgic to crack but I donít necessarily want a to deal with a couple hundred commons. What are the odds of pulling some high grade Gwynn, Boggs, or Sandbergs? I know thereís no right or wrong here but any thoughts or experiences?
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:01 PM
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At this point, tossing the commons is doing the hobby a favor!
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Old 11-02-2018, 06:01 PM
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https://forums.collectors.com/discus...ss-psa-10-sets
There's a good thread to waste an hour reading. TL;DR: Guy busts hundreds of wax boxes from the 80s, but hasn't yet actually sent any in for grading.
Edit: noticed one of his recent posts talks about wanting to complete a full set before sending any in, so that they all have consecutive cert numbers. For a 700-card set, that's like $5,000 each set. But maybe if he puts 10 sets together and has a 7,000 card submission, he can negotiate down to $4 or something a card.
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Old 11-03-2018, 07:22 AM
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Eh, with a 792 card set I doubt you'd get all 3...maybe 2...so yeah hundreds of commons...and centering can be brutal too....fun box though! 2nd year Cal is a nice card

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Old 11-04-2018, 12:17 AM
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I bought a box and opened it with a friend a couple of years back. He got Gwynn and Boggs and I got a Sandberg and a Ripken. It was fun to open but the big cards were not 10s. I'm sure we didn't come out ahead financially, but if i had another i would open it too.
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Old 11-06-2018, 10:11 AM
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If you read the thread someone else mentioned here from Collector's Universe, it is really informative in terms of statistical probabilities of potential 10s out of wax, vending, rack and cello packs. You should look there because he regularly posts his statistics, but based on his selections of cards worthy of being submitted as potential 10s, he is running at sub-5% on every year, every brand, every type of packaging. Several of them are down around 1%. so for a standard wax box of 540 cards, you are looking at potentially between 5 and 25 potential 10s. But most likely around the lower number based on this guy's stats. It is a really good insight into the harsh reality that even though there was mass production of most every year in the 1980's, the quality control (and survival of quality examples) is pretty brutal. Pop open the 1983's if you want to have a fun nostalgia trip, but the chances of getting one of the big 3 in perfect shape is nil.
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Odds may be low you'll end up with anything in a 10 that you want to keep, but one way or another, you'll have to figure out what you want to do with them, either unopened or opened. What would you do with the unopened packs? If you don't have a good answer to that question, might as well open them up and see what you get. The nostalgia is probably more enjoyable (and therefore worth more) than having an unopened box of 83s in the back of the closet.
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Thanks for that thoughts and the link. Definitely a fun read if you started collecting in the early 80ís. Brings back a lot of memories. I bought 83 strictly for the nostalgia, but Iíd be lying if I said I wasnít hoping deep down to pull some high grade rookies.

Iím having minor knee surgery in a couple weeks. Canít think of anything better than sitting on the couch and opening a box. Maybe insurance will cover it as part of rehab haha. Iíll report back on the results and if anyone is starting or building an 83 set Iíd be happy to send the contents.
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Old 11-06-2018, 07:53 PM
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I actually think the guy doing all the rips on CU/PSA board is too harsh on his own grading. I think he's too strict on centering compared to what would actually need to be a PSA 10.
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