'66 Topps short prints

[jchcollins]

Is there any consensus on whether or not some of these "short prints" really are SP's? For example, the Billy Williams #580. This is a card I would normally gravitate to, as I'm a Cubs fan and vintage Cubs collector - but of course most '60s Billy Williams cards normally go for a fraction of what you see this one listed for. But is it really that rare? Right now I count at least 20 of them for sale in various grades on eBay. I know there have been some cases where "rarities" at first later turn out to be "don't believe the hype" stories. But this may be true only for more recent cards.

[ALR-bishop]

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...966-topps-set/
http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.co...iversary-gold/

[rats60]

Originally Posted by ALR-bishop

http://www.sportscollectorsdaily.com...966-topps-set/
http://www.sportscollectorsdigest.co...iversary-gold/

They need to replace Willie Mccovey with Choo Choo Coleman. Have there be 66 high number sheets found? I would be curious if these cards are all on the same row. I believe there is only one row of Sps in the 67 highs with other rows shorter than those called DPs. I wouldn't be suprised if 66 was the same. Some SPs are tougher than others.

[bobsbbcards]

Excerpt from Al's link:

The 43 short prints from the 1966 Topps Baseball set, according to the Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards:

#524 Giants rookies w/Ollie Brown
#525 Gary Bell
#526 Twins team
#528 Jesse Gonder
#532 Aurelio Monteagudo
#533 Jerry Adair
#535 Willie Davis
#538 Bob Allen
#540 Denny McLain
#541 Gene Oliver
#543 Roger Craig
#544 Cardinals rookies w/Joe Hoerner
#545 Dick Green
#547 Horace Clarke RC
#548 Gary Kroll
#550 Willie McCovey
#551 Bob Purkey
#552 Birdie Tebbetts
#554 Jim Northrup
#555 Ron Perranoski
#556 Mel Queen
#557 Felix Mantilla
#559 Roberto Pena
#561 Choo Choo Coleman
#564 Bob Chance
#565 Jimmy Piersall
#566 Mike Cuellar
#567 Dick Howser
#569 Orlando McFarlane
#570 Art Mahaffey
#571 Dave Roberts
#576 Dave Nicholson
#577 Jack Lamabe
#578 Chi Chi Olivo
#580 Billy Williams
#583 Tigers team
#586 Claude Raymond
#589 Lou Klimchock
#590 Bill Skowron
#591 NL rookies w/Grant Jackson
#593 Doug Camilli
#596 Astros rookies w/Nate Colbert
#598 Gaylord Perry

[Griffins]

The standard catalog also lists numerous short prints in the '64 Giant set, but an uncut sheet proves this is wrong, and there actually aren't any- which confirms what we always thought as kids, collecting this set.
I'd like to see an uncut sheet. There are certainly some cards that are very tough in this set (McLain and Coleman killed me) but that can only be completely confirmed by the sheet.

[Jim65]

When I was putting my '66 Mets team set together (pre-internet days) I had a much harder time finding #589 Lou Klimchock than finding the Choo Choo Coleman.

[jstef]

What about #562, Russ Snyder? eBay sellers constantly claim it as a SP and does it appear to sell at SP prices.

[hangman62]

Ive put this one together many times over the years

yrs back the 591 Jackson was not too tough, now it is ..no doubt

some of the toughest in my opinion - McLain, Tiger Team, G Bell, Astro rookies ( Colbert)

[rats60]

Originally Posted by hangman62

Ive put this one together many times over the years

yrs back the 591 Jackson was not too tough, now it is ..no doubt

some of the toughest in my opinion - McLain, Tiger Team, G Bell, Astro rookies ( Colbert)

Well back in the sixties I was able to complete the set except for Jackson and Perry. They are tough. Mc Lain and Tigers are hard to find because of Tiger collectors.

[geosluggo]

Horace Clarke #547 still gives me nightmares.