Help understanding the rarity of T213-3 with Overprint

[Blunder19]

Hi Everyone,

I'm doing a little research on the T213 Coupon Type 3 set. I understand the cards came with 2 different backs. the more common back:


and a rarer factory 8 overprint back:


How rare are the factory 8 overprint backs? specifically regarding the Red Cobb pose does anyone know how many confirmed copies exist? below is the only known red cobb i have been able to find so far with a factory 8 overprint.. i would like to see if anyone knows of another... is the below a 1 of 1?
thanks!

[buymycards]

Hi Jamie, I did a quick search and came up with some info, though it is far from complete.

PSA has graded 1 card - Eddie Collins

SGC does not list any overprints.

Net54 shows Chris Browne with a Chase portrait, trobba with a Chase throwing, and Leon's Heritage auction had a Cobb bat off.

I would love to see some others.

Rick

[atx840]

I believe there are 4, maybe 5 Cobb bat offs but only the one portrait you posted.

[trobba]

A simple search uncovered this previous discussion...

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...ghlight=t213-3

And to answer your question, overprints are MUCH harder to find, many exist only as 1/1 variations as far as I can tell.

[kdixon]

I have this Wheat. I look on ebay from time to time for them and will be like 70 or 80 type threes and no overprints.

[MMarvelli]

SGC lists the type 3 overprints as "Factory No. 8"

T213-3 Doyle, Larry (bat) (F+B).jpg

T213-3 Hoblitzel, Dick (F+B).jpg

[trobba]

So to get it on this thread, this is the confirmed list as best I can come up with:

Cobb - both red portrait and batting**
mathewson
hoblitzell**
mcgraw port** and glove hip
E collins**
chase - portrait, trophy and throwing**
davis
dubuc
magee
elberfeld**
sweeney
merkle
evers
speaker
donovan
gandil
griffith
bender trees and no trees**
wheat
marquard pitching
Doyle batting

** cards with multiple confirmed examples

[obcmac]

Originally Posted by kdixon

I have this Wheat. I look on ebay from time to time for them and will be like 70 or 80 type threes and no overprints.

Love the type 3's. I don't know if the "70-80" is reflective of the sample though...as about 98% of those are from the same collection...and seem to be priced in the card museum range. Quick look at the sgc population...with about 270 slabbed...would 10% of type threes being overprinted be a reasonable guess?

I'm up to 7 total cards now (no overprints)...a long way to go.

Mac

[tedzan]

Still looking for a T213-3 Factory #8 overprint of Chase......and, the T213-2 (Buffalo) version to complete my 5-some sub-set.

Any help is greatly appreciated.


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Thanks guys,


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[edjs]

Originally Posted by obcmac

Love the type 3's. I don't know if the "70-80" is reflective of the sample though...as about 98% of those are from the same collection...and seem to be priced in the card museum range. Quick look at the sgc population...with about 270 slabbed...would 10% of type threes being overprinted be a reasonable guess?

I'm up to 7 total cards now (no overprints)...a long way to go.

Mac

When you mentioned "seem to be priced in the card museum range," it made me wonder, what is a normal price for a type 3? I have a Bridwell PSA 2 that I bought a while back, it was being listed as a type 2, but when I got it, I realized it was a type 3. I have always wondered what it was really worth, as all I ever see are those museum prices on e-bay. I know it isn't a $750-1200 card, but what would be a fair estimate? Anyone care to give a swag?

[atx840]

Nice to see you post Jim.

[mrvster]

one of the true historians of the issues...........I knew he would post again!

THANK GOD!

great to hear from you jimmy......you are one of the collectors who really solidified my passion for collecting 206......you have educated me more than prob anyone on the 206 set...I miss the good 'ole days of battling it out on the bay w cfc1909......."who the hell is this guy??!!! he's killing me on all the rarities".................

seeing you post put a big smile on my face......this place was MUCH better with frequent posts from you and tim


peace my friend......you were missed greatly!